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Could This Be Bad for Coffin Os ?

Sebastian Blanco

Posts 106
18 Jun 2018 16:36


Look like hyperion is claiming copyright over os 3.9 now.
Could this be a problem for coffin ?.

source:
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David Wright

Posts 288
18 Jun 2018 16:42


Shhhhhh.


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 651
18 Jun 2018 17:45


Sebastian Blanco wrote:

  Look like hyperion is claiming copyright over os 3.9 now.
    Could this be a problem for coffin ?.
 

 
  Generation Amiga isnt a realiable source. Might be a excersise in "legal powers" but so far Hype boys havent seen OS 3.9 sources and you will note Amiga Inc dispute does not mention any rights over OS 3.5/OS 3.9. Rights to develop/distribute/blabla AmigaOS further are SINCE 3.1 only or 4.0.
 
The way soap opera goes, Amiga History might as well be this EXTERNAL LINK or this even older to that matter EXTERNAL LINK


Renaud Schweingruber

Posts 243
18 Jun 2018 19:29


lol, they could also sue spanish countries :-)


Matthew Langtry

Posts 137
18 Jun 2018 20:32


Haage n partner have the rights to 3.5 n 3.9. I think.
 
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Renaud Schweingruber

Posts 243
18 Jun 2018 20:55


Having an old webpage online doesn't mean you hold rights.

Some people like to refer to this page as "basis" to understand current situation :
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Gregthe Canuck

Posts 267
18 Jun 2018 21:00


The fact that nobody has pulled a 'Jim Drew' on the Coffin distribution says it all. Nobody cares about or profits from OS 3.5/3.9 any more.

It's dead, Jim.... EXTERNAL LINK 
 
 
 


Matthew Langtry

Posts 137
18 Jun 2018 22:24


Rofl, has the copyrights ran out then?


Ian Parsons

Posts 163
18 Jun 2018 23:37


The copyrights haven't expired as I understand it the distribution rights may have expired and no new deal has been done so the software is in limbo.


Olaf Schoenweiss

Posts 431
19 Jun 2018 10:51


as far as I know OS 3.5 and 3.9 were a mixture of contributions by 3rd party developers and components done by Haage & Partner. All 3rd party components became free (many of the authors licensed their components to Hyperion later), the H&P parts are still copyrighted. So Hyperion cannot control 3.5 or 3.9 completely.


Steve Ferrell

Posts 232
19 Jun 2018 16:32


Olaf Schoenweiss wrote:

as far as I know OS 3.5 and 3.9 were a mixture of contributions by 3rd party developers and components done by Haage & Partner. All 3rd party components became free (many of the authors licensed their components to Hyperion later), the H&P parts are still copyrighted. So Hyperion cannot control 3.5 or 3.9 completely.

Hyperion cannot even pay their bills nor deliver any of the OS4 updates that they promised 10+ years ago, so expecting them to control anything, even a dead OS that's over 20 years old is expecting far too much from them.


Tim D

Posts 22
20 Jun 2018 14:47


Regardless of Hyperion, Haage/Partner, CLoanto or maybe even AEON as a future owner. I still think it would be smart to somehow build Coffin in a similar way as e.g. ClassicWB, where the end user provides the AOS 3.9 components that may be subject to the copyright debate.


Ronnie Beck

Posts 18
20 Jun 2018 14:56


Tim D wrote:

I still think it would be smart to somehow build Coffin in a similar way as e.g. ClassicWB, where the end user provides the AOS 3.9 components that may be subject to the copyright debate.

+1 this
 
  Makes much more sense to me.  Maybe an installer that let's one choose what to install.  Uninstalling roadshow every F*cking time there is a new version of Coffin is getting tedious.


Chris Sanz

Posts 8
20 Jun 2018 15:29


Ronnie Beck wrote:

Tim D wrote:

  I still think it would be smart to somehow build Coffin in a similar way as e.g. ClassicWB, where the end user provides the AOS 3.9 components that may be subject to the copyright debate.
 

 
  +1 this
 
  Makes much more sense to me.  Maybe an installer that let's one choose what to install.  Uninstalling roadshow every F*cking time there is a new version of Coffin is getting tedious.

+1
How about being able to start with a base 3.9 and update. Then you could add all the extra's, Games etc. to what ever partition you want?

Chris


Sebastian Blanco

Posts 106
20 Jun 2018 21:36


Chris Sanz wrote:

Ronnie Beck wrote:

 
Tim D wrote:

  I still think it would be smart to somehow build Coffin in a similar way as e.g. ClassicWB, where the end user provides the AOS 3.9 components that may be subject to the copyright debate.
 

 
  +1 this
   
    Makes much more sense to me.  Maybe an installer that let's one choose what to install.  Uninstalling roadshow every F*cking time there is a new version of Coffin is getting tedious.
 

 
  +1
  How about being able to start with a base 3.9 and update. Then you could add all the extra's, Games etc. to what ever partition you want?
 
  Chris

The problem is that doing this requires creating complex installation scripts. And someone have to do them.


Eric Gus

Posts 275
21 Jun 2018 07:22


Ronnie Beck wrote:

  Uninstalling roadshow every F*cking time there is a new version of Coffin is getting tedious.

Oh I full heartedly agree with this... tedious is putting it nicely..


Mike Brantley

Posts 18
23 Jun 2018 22:29


Removing Roadshow  ... that sucker is tenacious about not wanting to leave each time. Also, perhaps I suffer short term memory problems because I keep forgetting how to perform the exorcism each time. LOL

posts 17