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Daniel Lakey

Posts 5
16 Apr 2017 14:14


Hi,
I'm thinking about getting a CD32 which of course begs the question of whether I can get a Vampire 2 for it. Kipper2k said he had it on his wishlist - did that ever come to anything?

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Niclas A
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 94
16 Apr 2017 18:07


Daniel Lakey wrote:

  Hi,
  I'm thinking about getting a CD32 which of course begs the question of whether I can get a Vampire 2 for it. Kipper2k said he had it on his wishlist - did that ever come to anything?
 
  EXTERNAL LINK 

 
  Finishing all the preordered V600 boards made all other Kipper projects on hold. ( That and getting his hand operated )
 
  Maybe he will have more time to tinker when demand is met.
  A Vampire CD32 version is not yet even started to my knowledge.
  But surly possible in the future.


Daniel Sevo

Posts 144
16 Apr 2017 18:14


CD32 is cursed, no stuff ever comes out for it ;-)
 
  First question: Do you already own an A1200?
  Second question: What do you envision doing with the accelerated CD32? Play original CD32 games as well as WHDLoad?
 
 


Daniel Lakey

Posts 5
16 Apr 2017 20:16


Because it's there!

Seriously though, like the A600 it has limited expansion options so an all-in-one solution like the Vampire is ideal. It gives sd card, hdmi, oodles of Fast mem, a smokin' hot accelerated CPU and, if it follows the V500+ route, IDE.

Really, the CD32 and Vampire are prefect for each other.


Cunn Pole

Posts 17
16 Apr 2017 21:31


The CD32 is my preferred system. I could never afford an SX addon for it though so it is pretty limited other than it's original purpose. What's not to love about a compact amiga with build in CD drive?


Tango One

Posts 52
16 Apr 2017 22:18


Hope the vampire-team will focus on

- V1200
- Stand-alone system


Daniel Sevo

Posts 144
16 Apr 2017 23:15


Daniel Lakey wrote:

Because it's there!
 
  Seriously though, like the A600 it has limited expansion options so an all-in-one solution like the Vampire is ideal. It gives sd card, hdmi, oodles of Fast mem, a smokin' hot accelerated CPU and, if it follows the V500+ route, IDE.
 
  Really, the CD32 and Vampire are prefect for each other.

Well, I agree more or less, but as long as you remember that you are still going to miss some CIA stuff so its going to be a limited Amiga, even with Vampire.

The CD32 connector is also much easier to find, so it would probably be easier to do than the V1200. However, there is that small detail of CD32 being a niche system with few users compared to 500/600/1200.



Daniel Lakey

Posts 5
17 Apr 2017 10:15


The SX-1 has CIAs on it; presumably a Vampire CD32 could have something equivalent.

I'll grant that it's a niche market within a niche market but there are no other competitors (other accelerators are available for all other Amigas, both new and vintage).

Anyway, I'll get a CD32 and hope that the vampire comes to it eventually


Andrew Copland

Posts 31
17 Apr 2017 21:48


I have a CD32 and would like a Vampire for it.


David Homer

Posts 1
18 Apr 2017 21:10


I think the niche market issue's the biggest drawback, but I've got a plan:

If the team agree to make a CD32 version, I'll not only buy one of those, I'll buy an A1200 version too.

...and I don't even have an A1200 at the minute. ;)


Daniel Sevo

Posts 144
18 Apr 2017 22:19


Another alternative, (as previously discussed at EAB) would of course be to make an adapter for the CD32 to accept V1200. About the same Jens is doing with ACA500+ accepting A1200 accelerators, but also adding a few bells and whistles..

Such an adapter could use a small cheap FPGA for missing CIA functionality (and possibly some SRAM hack ;-)
Such adapter would actually be more useful than a Vampire CD32 as it would also give upgrade options to other CD32 owners who want to add other standard 1200 cards *as well* as V1200. Then the Apollo team would have one less niche version to worry/care about.
Several(?) people (kipper2k etc) are already dong/selling reversed CD32 connector so that an expansion card would attach inside the CD32. (Up to a certain size of course, but most new accelerators are small.)


Daniel Lakey

Posts 5
18 Apr 2017 23:33


Well, I'm about to close the deal on a CD32, so I bloody hope a vampire³² is forthcoming ;)


Daniel Sevo

Posts 144
18 Apr 2017 23:52


Daniel Lakey wrote:

Well, I'm about to close the deal on a CD32, so I bloody hope a vampire³² is forthcoming ;)

Hope yes, but always remember you go into this with zero actual promises about V-CD32 from the Apollo team. ;-)



Daniel Lakey

Posts 5
19 Apr 2017 06:48


Quite. I have room for another amiga in any case. As should everyone!


Rob M

Posts 1
19 Apr 2017 17:10


Daniel Lakey wrote:

The SX-1 has CIAs on it; presumably a Vampire CD32 could have something equivalent.

The planned standalone version will need to implement the CIAs so not really an issue.


Ian Parsons

Posts 59
19 Apr 2017 19:42


Depending on what legacy ports are implemented the standalone may only need a very minimal version of the CIAs (just to handle the left/fire buttons and keyboard) as already implemented on the CD32 Akiko custom chip. Full CIAs are only needed if you add floppy, parallel and serial ports.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 2448
19 Apr 2017 20:23


Ian Parsons wrote:

may only need a very minimal version of the CIAs

No worry. CIAs are already done an working :)


Gregthe Canuck

Posts 79
19 Apr 2017 20:38


@Gunnar

Sweet!


Cunn Pole

Posts 17
20 Apr 2017 10:28


Will the standalone have ide that can take a dvd drive as well as HD?


Daniel Sevo

Posts 144
20 Apr 2017 23:28


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Ian Parsons wrote:

  may only need a very minimal version of the CIAs
 

  No worry. CIAs are already done an working :)

Will that be in a separate FPGA?
Possible reasons:
*You don't want to waste Logical units in main FPGA for stuff only some products will use (Standalone and a hypothetical CD32 version)
*Not enough pins to technically be able to wire it all up properly, so a separate FPGA with its own pins is needed?

Reason I ask is related to a possible CD32 adapter - just to keep us dreaming ;-)

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