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The Vampire Future Looks Bright :D

Mo Retro

Posts 72
25 Jan 2017 23:11


Now that the production of the A500 Vampire2+ fis ramping up and the A1200 Vampire 2 is around the corner, we can start thinking about the future with a Vampire 2 Standalone to play with.
Not much is known at moment about that board but one thing is sure there's a new X500 casing from Loriano Pagni that would match it without a doubt.
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For using this case the board must comply to the fixing and back plates.

- This Vampire 2 board aka Phoenix board will certainly have the Arria 10 FPGA

Will it have the same expansion ports as the V1200 as Gunnar announced in an other post?
Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

The V1200 has 2 expansion ports.
These ports are much faster than old Clockport.
There will be USB, Network, and Wifi expansion for them.
We are right now testing / developing drivers for those expansions.

Are there any other confirmed Vampire Standalone facts that we can add to this post?




Ian Parsons

Posts 56
26 Jan 2017 01:05


I'm not overly keen on the look of previous case projects from Loriano Pagni. I recognise the difficulty of producing something aesthetically pleasing with limited funding and if people like them then good for them but they aren't for me, however the new case may be better so I look forward to seeing it.

If the team plan to target a wedge/keyboard computer rather than "big box" then I would hope they would design it around the new A1200 replica cases (or some variant of them) although keyboard supplies could be an issue there.

From what I've heard the first stand alone is likely to be a relatively low end system utilising a Cyclone series FPGA, possibly a Cyclone 5 with features very similar to the 1200 accelerator. I think the design has probably been largely complete for quite some time as hints of a possible reveal were being given a few months ago but for whatever reason (possibly technical issues like drivers or chips set, collaboration on components or software for a system or strategic delay to concentrate on clearing the V600V2 and V500V2+ backlog or something else) it is being kept under wraps for now.


Wawa T

Posts 167
26 Jan 2017 12:20


to each his own, but there are more appealing case projects around, such a device can fit in. especially those looking more genuine, not built around a standard pc keyboard and not carrying some pretencious label containing an "x" character.


Mo Retro

Posts 72
28 Jan 2017 20:37


What will the Vampire standalone bring us more?
What connectivity will we have for keyboard, Mouse & joysticks?
What kind of expansion slots and how many?
What storage options will we get?
What speed will the FPGA have?
Will we at last beat the hell out of the PPC cards?




M Rickan

Posts 42
28 Jan 2017 23:02


Given the existing product pipeline, it's likely more appropriate to ask for a ballpark idea of when this information will be disclosed.

I'm sure this has been asked before as well, but it would be interesting to know whether a standalone Vampire card would be viable.


Mo Retro

Posts 72
28 Jan 2017 23:53


m rickan wrote:

Given the existing product pipeline, it's likely more appropriate to ask for a ballpark idea of when this information will be disclosed.
 
  I'm sure this has been asked before as well, but it would be interesting to know whether a standalone Vampire card would be viable.

You're right rickan, that's why I only want to let the forum users list up known facts.
The questions I asked here above is only a means to trigger the forum users to fill in the known facts.
The Apollo team is free to engage in this information gathering. :D


Mr-Z EdgeOfPanic

Posts 106
29 Jan 2017 07:42


@Mo Retro:

In terms of memory speed and movie playback we are allready beating
the living daylights out of blizz&CSPPC cards.
Also in genneral workbench performance my Vamp2 A600 beats the crap
out of my CSPPC cardwith 060/60 Mhz




M Rickan

Posts 42
29 Jan 2017 08:48


Mo Retro wrote:

  The questions I asked here above is only a means to trigger the forum users to fill in the known facts.
  The Apollo team is free to engage in this information gathering.

Gunnar mentioned back in October that "the cards are done already" and include "all really important connector you need to have a usable system with keyboard, mouse, joystick and internet."

Beyond that, I'm not sure that many other details have been disclosed.


Samuel Crow
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 199
29 Jan 2017 09:21


m rickan wrote:

Mo Retro wrote:

  The questions I asked here above is only a means to trigger the forum users to fill in the known facts.
  The Apollo team is free to engage in this information gathering.
 

 
  Gunnar mentioned back in October that "the cards are done already" and include "all really important connector you need to have a usable system with keyboard, mouse, joystick and internet."
 
  Beyond that, I'm not sure that many other details have been disclosed.

Even if the boards are ready, we would still need a bug fixed core to run on it.


Niclas A
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 90
29 Jan 2017 09:23


Done could equal a board like this.

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Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 2399
29 Jan 2017 09:36


Mo Retro wrote:

What will the Vampire standalone bring us more?
What connectivity will we have for keyboard, Mouse & joysticks?

USB + Classic Amiga Connector

Mo Retro wrote:

  What kind of expansion slots and how many?

Our own expansion ports.
Modules for Wifi  are available

Mo Retro wrote:

  What storage options will we get?

Fast-IDE and SdCard
With Adapter SATA.

Mo Retro wrote:

  What speed will the FPGA have?

Similar to existing Vampires

Mo Retro wrote:

  Will we at last beat the hell out of the PPC cards?

 
Different Architectures are not easy to compare as you can not run the exact same program on them.
Several Users compared DOOM and Video playback speed.
According to their tests the Vampire run those application much faster.



Mo Retro

Posts 72
29 Jan 2017 13:57


Jee thanks Gunnar, Niclas, Samual, Rickan, Mr Z, Wawa and Ian for al the input & answers :D
The things that Gunnar confirms makes the wait even more worthwile.
Love to have that Phoenix board in my hands in ythe future :D

One thing i forgot to aske is the amount of memory and the formfactor of the standalone.

Thanks again for the good work the Team delivers.
All the best,


M Rickan

Posts 42
29 Jan 2017 23:06


Niclas A wrote:

Done could equal a board like this.

It could... if it were from the starter kit. :)


Mo Retro

Posts 72
29 Jan 2017 23:21


m rickan wrote:

Niclas A wrote:

  Done could equal a board like this.
 

 
  It could... if it were from the starter kit. :)

Indeed it looks like a spider board :LOL


M Rickan

Posts 42
29 Jan 2017 23:29


Mo Retro wrote:

  Indeed it looks like a spider board :LOL

You made great progress - they had to throw in something to see if you were paying attention. ;)



Kolbjørn Barmen

Posts 66
30 Jan 2017 13:14


Will the USB ports be available from Amiga USB stacks for general use (such as MIDI, storage, ethernet, etc), or will they be HID (keyboard, mouse, joystick) only?
 
  Will "your own" expansion ports be compatible with any existing GPIO headers, such as for example those of Raspberry Pi? EXTERNAL LINK 

  I presume the "wifi modules" are ESP8266, that use hayes (AT modem) commands for operation. If the port is available as a serial port, I much rather use Bluetooth module like HC-06, MAX3232 for real DB9 RS232 serial port, or simply a direct null-modem connection to RPi Zero like I do with the MIST - will this be an option?
 
  Will the board have RTC, or at least option to connect RTC to GPIO headers?

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