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Igor Majstorovic
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 406
03 Dec 2020 23:31


First calm down please.

How could you expect it to work?
Same goes when you try to use Amiga IDE together with kickstart 1.3.
Right address for this is the one who made 3.1.4, not us.

I m not sure exactly how CPU type is related to IDE. In Amiga design Gayle does most of the job IDE related. 

You feel cheated by me?



Otto PS
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Posts 26/ 1
04 Dec 2020 00:19


Maybe you're right about my mood and I'm a little irritated. But it's frustrating every time I want to do something to run into these problems.
  I don't want to use coffinos or apolloos, I want to use the operating system that I had previously purchased (AOS 3.1.4).
 
  Anyway, ignore that the IDE of the A1200 exists (for now I don't want it), I want to use the IDE port of my V1200 with my original AOS 3.1.4 and boot with it, I also want to use my PCMCIA port.
 
  Selling an accelerator board, with IDE included but to be able to use it, you lose access to original hardware (PCMCIA, A1200 IDE) is not good. It was not what you specified when selling it.
 
  If there are compatibility problems, I understand it but there are no solutions, at least you could give a guide with the modules so that users can do their custom kickstart with remus.
 
  By the way, it is impossible to extract the modules with romsplit because it does not recognize the kickstart used by the V1200, I tried it using grabkick. Obviously it is not on the rom lists declared by remus.
 
  There are many compatibility problems, I could make a long list that is why I do not feel good with the product, (Example: Try to use "vcontrol mr" with a 1.2 or 1.3 kickstart with the 2.13 RC3 core, the system remains unstable, I don't have MMU as an alternative...., I end up using relokick .... pathetic).
 
  Personally I think the hardware development of the V1200 is very good, but not the software associated with it. I think it is more important to have compatibility support and guides than to get more sequential speed accessing the CHIP RAM.
 
  Excuse my humor, but I don't feel like dealing with this anymore. Thats not funny anymore
 
  EDIT: Real CPU maybe less compatiblity problems.


Igor Majstorovic
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 406
04 Dec 2020 00:54


I think that you got several things wrong.
Let's try to explain.

1.
There is no support in 3.1.4 for Vampire 1200 IDE, no one contacted us regarding that matter. At the time I was working on V1200 3.1.4. didn't exist. I don't have it even now. Will there be support is not up to us. In short if Microsoft wants to support V-IDE it's ok by me.
EXTERNAL LINK 

2.
At the time when I send you the card, V-IDE also didn't exist, as stated in manual and as stated several times on this forum. As work in progress and still is. You can test several cores, with one of two IDE working or both working together with PCMCIA.

3.
Why I decided to comment this, it is simply because, you are one person when we talked over mail, when you got the card and started to use it and another person here. If I were you I would sell the card and move on. Retro computers or any hardware for them is pain and pleasure same time with unexpected results and lot of time spend to understand simplest things so if you are getting frustrated it is time to leave. Instead, being frustrated how about you do something what you say that we should do. For example, tutorial how to add V-IDE on AOS 3.1.4, I know I could do that :)     



Otto PS
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Posts 26/ 1
04 Dec 2020 01:36


I'm really frustrated, I don't feel like arguing. But I will answer because it is what to do.

1) AOS3.1.4 was released in September 2018, Vampire V1200 was released December 2019. I understand that you have worked a lot, but at the time of launching the V1200, AOS 3.1.4 existed. I don't know what the exact problem is with AOS 3.1.4, possibly it has to do with the lack of a compatible IDE.scsi module in the AOS 3.1.4 kickstart. They are things that when selling your products you could try and help buyers not to become detectives for you. It's just my opinion.

2) What you say is tricky, I can have different cores with different behaviors over V-IDE, (V-IDE Disabled, V-IDE Enabled without GAYLE access and V-IDE Enabled with GAYLE access) the problem is that there are no branches for those options, there are always improvements and solutions on the latest core. So I can't have a core with the 2.13 fixes and improvements with the V-IDE behavior of the 2.11 core. (It's an example)

3) I would love to help with this problem, if you gave me information about the modules (which I requested in the first post in addition to complaining) I could do the necessary tests. But for my sanity maybe I should listen to you and sell my v1200, this stopped being a happy hobby to be a problem.

Sorry dude,


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 6207
04 Dec 2020 02:34


Otto PS wrote:

I feel cheated

 
I assume you know that we have a online support chat channel?
If go there and tell people what you want to do and ask for advice
then you should always get people help you.
Can you help me understand why you not asked there for advice?
 
 
 

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