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| | Pedro Cotter (Apollo Team Member) Posts 308 07 Jan 2020 18:12
| Connecting the Vampire V1200 and first power on! Piece of beauty! EXTERNAL LINK
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 07 Jan 2020 18:23
| Congrats Pedro, I am sure there will be many, many fine videos and hours of joy!
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| | Todd H
Posts 27 07 Jan 2020 18:55
| Sweet. Looking forward to getting mine. Probably the most excited I've been for a piece of Amiga kit in a long time.
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| | Mister Cartoonmonkey
Posts 57 07 Jan 2020 21:50
| Congratulations guys. ROCK ON!
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| | Knight Stone (Needs Verification) Posts 136/ 1 07 Jan 2020 22:13
| thanks for sharin' :) I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ? just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious. :)
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 07 Jan 2020 22:22
| Knight Stone wrote:
| thanks for sharin' :) I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ? just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious. :) |
Membus is real mem test. Pedro, can you update this: Membus world record in past EXTERNAL LINK It would be nice if someone would run it again on V1200 x14 and V4SA x16 :) Bus Test Aminet m68k download EXTERNAL LINK Current 0.7 FAQ text Q: What is memory performance of V2? VAMPIRE-2 reaches with LONG memory access now 530 MB/sec READ 660 MB/sec WRITE speed. AMIGA BUSTEST - READL Score ------------------------------------------ Note: Bustest benchmark on PPC systems runs in fast JIT emulation! (Andreas Wolf) VAMPIRE 2 529.5 MB/sec (world record!) x1000 AMIGA-1 PA6T 1800 MHz 285.6 MB/sec MOS IBook PPC G4 1400 MHz 185.4 MB/sec MOS MacMini PPC G4 1500 MHz 184.3 MB/sec OS4 SAM PPC 460 1100 MHz 109.7 MB/sec OS4 SAM PPC 440 667 MHz 91.1 MB/sec OS4 Peg2 PPC G4 1000 MHz 80.6 MB/sec CyberStormPPC 68060@50 55.1 MB/sec Apollo 1240 68040@40 47.8 MB/sec FPGA ARCADE 29.0 MB/sec Blizzard 1230 68030@50 24.3 MB/sec Typhoon MK2 68030@40 18.8 MB/sec AMIGA 4000 68040@25 11.5 MB/sec AMIGA 1200 ACA 1220 10.9 MB/sec Zeus 68000 50 Mhz 9.1 MB/sec Note that speed increases with faster RAM, V4 models have DDR3! (vox)Also, Povray, P96 Speed, FXPaint Past FXPaint EXTERNAL LINK P96 test EXTERNAL LINK Some V4 results also please!
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| | Knight Stone (Needs Verification) Posts 136/ 1 08 Jan 2020 00:06
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
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Knight Stone wrote:
| thanks for sharin' :) I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ? just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious. :) |
Membus is real mem test. Pedro, can you update this: Membus world record in past EXTERNAL LINK It would be nice if someone would run it again on V1200 x14 and V4SA x16 :) Bus Test Aminet m68k download EXTERNAL LINK Current 0.7 FAQ text Q: What is memory performance of V2? VAMPIRE-2 reaches with LONG memory access now 530 MB/sec READ 660 MB/sec WRITE speed. AMIGA BUSTEST - READL Score ------------------------------------------ Note: Bustest benchmark on PPC systems runs in fast JIT emulation! (Andreas Wolf) VAMPIRE 2 529.5 MB/sec (world record!) x1000 AMIGA-1 PA6T 1800 MHz 285.6 MB/sec MOS IBook PPC G4 1400 MHz 185.4 MB/sec MOS MacMini PPC G4 1500 MHz 184.3 MB/sec OS4 SAM PPC 460 1100 MHz 109.7 MB/sec OS4 SAM PPC 440 667 MHz 91.1 MB/sec OS4 Peg2 PPC G4 1000 MHz 80.6 MB/sec CyberStormPPC 68060@50 55.1 MB/sec Apollo 1240 68040@40 47.8 MB/sec FPGA ARCADE 29.0 MB/sec Blizzard 1230 68030@50 24.3 MB/sec Typhoon MK2 68030@40 18.8 MB/sec AMIGA 4000 68040@25 11.5 MB/sec AMIGA 1200 ACA 1220 10.9 MB/sec Zeus 68000 50 Mhz 9.1 MB/sec Note that speed increases with faster RAM, V4 models have DDR3! (vox) Also, Povray, P96 Speed, FXPaint Past FXPaint http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=2¬e=10624 P96 test http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=2¬e=14103 Some V4 results also please!
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I have no idea what any of that means :) but thanks for posting, i can see the Vamp is at the top of the heap.
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| | Marlon Beijer
Posts 182 08 Jan 2020 00:24
| Knight Stone wrote:
| thanks for sharin' :) I was expecting it to score higher than a V2 A600, but the score is identical, i thought the V1200 used DDR ? just asking a question, excuse my ignorance, if the answer is obvious. :)
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V1200 is a V2 card. It's almost identical in design to V500 and V600. It has same amount of RAM, Cyclone III fpga, sdcard-slot, hdmi.It does have 2 expansion slots instead of 1 and on-board ide + headers for reset and hdd and power leds.
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| | Vojin Vidanovic (Needs Verification) Posts 1916/ 1 08 Jan 2020 06:18
| Marlon Beijer wrote:
| It does have 2 expansion slots instead of 1 and on-board ide + headers for reset and hdd and power leds. |
Yes, +improved design, faster RAM and yes, should be bigger FPGA, thus the price difference.Knight Stone wrote:
| I have no idea what any of that means :) but thanks for posting, i can see the Vamp is at the top of the heap.
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It means really fast mem read to any past m68k sys and comparable to modern PPC (since test is not native on them, we cant say faaster, but I doubt CPU recompile would greatly change mem test results). Its a real shining star of Vamp 080 design.
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| | Andy Hearn
Posts 374 08 Jan 2020 08:58
| Cheers for that little video! Can’t wait for my email to come let alone the card :D
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| | Mister Cartoonmonkey
Posts 57 08 Jan 2020 17:56
| I have a CF card all ready to go with CoffinOS. Come on Vampire get here! I’ve got the proper model serial Wacom tablet and I’m hoping TVPaint just works with pressure. (On a freaking 1200!) Happy days.
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| | Allonsanfan %
Posts 57 08 Jan 2020 18:00
| Vojin Vidanovic wrote:
| should be bigger FPGA, thus the price difference. |
The card is existing so someone should be able to verify. Is there a bigger FPGA?
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| | Nixus Minimax
Posts 416 08 Jan 2020 19:09
| Allonsanfan % wrote:
| Is there a bigger FPGA?
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Yes, there is.
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| | Sean Sk
Posts 488 08 Jan 2020 21:13
| Huh? How can the V1200 FPGA be bigger when it's a Cyclone III just like the V500/V600?
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| | Gunnar von Boehn (Apollo Team Member) Posts 6239 08 Jan 2020 21:19
| sean sk wrote:
| Huh? How can the V1200 FPGA be bigger when it's a Cyclone III just like the V500/V600?
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FPGA families are like BMW car models A BMW 3 model - is offered with different size engine.
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| | Allonsanfan %
Posts 57 08 Jan 2020 22:42
| Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
| FPGA families are like BMW car models A BMW 3 model - is offered with different size engine.
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And which size engine is on the V1200 FPGA?
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| | Ian Parsons
Posts 230 08 Jan 2020 23:31
| The images on Majsta's site seem to have an EP3C55 on the 1200 and an EP3C40 on the 500.
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| | Marlon Beijer
Posts 182 09 Jan 2020 00:10
| Ian Parsons wrote:
| The images on Majsta's site seem to have an EP3C55 on the 1200 and an EP3C40 on the 500.
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V500/600 has a 40kLE Cyclone III while the V1200 has a 55kLE Cyclone III.The extra room makes it more feasible to clock higher. Current core for V1200 is the 2.12rc3 x11 core for V500/V600 with some minor adjustments to talk with the A1200 bus and to use the 14MHz base clock instead of the 7MHz. Hence the performance is about the same as for those cards. The team is still working hard to get V4SA as stable as possible, so the V2 (including V1200) will get some more love as soon as V4 is at an acceptable stable core. So we won't see the true potential of V1200 just yet, we'll have to wait a bit for that.
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| | Sean Sk
Posts 488 09 Jan 2020 00:16
| OK great! Thanks for clarifying! I was not aware of this, so learnt something new. Sounds awesome! :D
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| | Nixus Minimax
Posts 416 09 Jan 2020 08:28
| Marlon Beijer wrote:
| V500/600 has a 40kLE Cyclone III while the V1200 has a 55kLE Cyclone III. The extra room makes it more feasible to clock higher.
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Ironically, the A1200 being the only currently vampirised AGA-Amiga is the first one to get an FPGA large enough to implement both a full FPU and AGA within the FPGA. Oh, the joys of hindsight... ;)
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