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List of V4 Standalone Micepage  1 2 

Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
04 Jan 2020 11:16


Here is a list of tested good working mice for the V4.

Often you find the same mouse under a different name in another country. The example the same "HAMA" mouse are sold under the brand "SWANN" in Australia.
             

Amazon Basics Mouse

Apple Mouse
             
Cherry MC2000 Mouse
       
IBM USB Mouse
             
HP X1000
             
Microsoft Basic Mouse
         
Microsoft Compact Mouse
         
HAMA  MC-100 USB Mouse Optical
                         
HAMA  MC-200 USB Mouse Optical
                         
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LOGITECH M90
     
LOGITECH M110
           
Gaming Mouse BLOOD BAT     
               
Video Seven USB Mouse
                 
VicTsing PC081A
                 
Trust 15862
         
Rapoo Mouse N1130
   
Razer Diamondback
     
Razer Gaming Mouse
   
HYSJ Gaming Mouse
 
Sharplace Travel Mouse
 
  Verbatim Go-Mini Travel Mouse
 
LC-Power 709
 


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1593
04 Jan 2020 12:45


Added to FAQ, alongside two buy links for each model.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
06 Jan 2020 18:04


If you know more working mice - Tell me please!


Martin White

Posts 80
06 Jan 2020 23:14


guys - I assume the HP X1000 was added after I reported that it worked in Gunnars test build? As such it should be removed from this list and from the Wiki for now.

It does not work with the current release core 7160C so anyone buying one will be disappointed until a core based on the recent tests is released.


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1593
07 Jan 2020 00:57


Bloody Bat looks real nice and is not that expensive.
 
  3200 DPI Resolution Optical Tracking Technology provides more sensitivity than standard optical mice for smooth and precise tracking on a wide range of surfaces.
 
  Comfort Design: Contoured body with non-slip buttons keeps your grip firm during game play and reduces fatigue. Features 7 total buttons including Fire (double click) and Page Forward/Backward for easy page scanning.
 
  Intelligent connectivity: Plug and play (No CD Required. No Coding). 6ft (1.5m)
  Built-weight iron, feel comfortable, mobile and stability.use in gaming ,office and home
 
  Mice
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  Box
  EXTERNAL LINK 
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Logilink 162 is also a gaming mice

The ergonomic design, of course, your hand or wrist movements has
Precise optical sensor DPI resolution to be adjusted the button to 800/1200/1600/2400 DPI
6 standard buttons + 1 DPI Eintselltaste with LED light
Strong, durable and ideal for any table PnH Veterinary Bedding NON SLIP Is Perfect For Combat tested materials for longer service life, even with Unerbittlicher Hardcore gaming action
Mouse cable length: 1.8 m Mouse Mat Dimensions: 350 x 250 x 2 mm

EXTERNAL LINK


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
07 Jan 2020 08:11


Martin White wrote:

guys - I assume the HP X1000 was added after I reported that it worked in Gunnars test build?

Hi Martin,

Yes the list is the latest status of the core.
We make new Core versions ever day.
We make "official Releases" about once per month.
But every user can always get the latest test core from me.

What is very important for me is that the list of supported mice 
always improves with each core.
This means that a new core shall always support all what the previous cores did too.

I think our USB Mice support improved greatly with the last cores.
Nearly all the cable mice that I have work now.
My impression is that we are close to 90% of cable mice working.


Markus B

Posts 121
07 Jan 2020 09:05


What kind of adjustments must be made in order to get a mouse working?

I assumed so far they all implement the same profile.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
07 Jan 2020 09:49


Markus B wrote:

What kind of adjustments must be made in order to get a mouse working?
I assumed so far they all implement the same profile.

So far our general knowledge about the USB protocol
increases and improves and our USB host controller simply gets better.



Markus B

Posts 121
07 Jan 2020 13:52


Oh, so some kind of reverse engineering approach then?
I thought HID is well documented and standardized.

So kudos of approaching it the hard way.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
07 Jan 2020 14:52


Markus B wrote:

I thought HID is well documented and standardized.

Maybe just like HTML is also well documented,
nevertheless writing a perfect Webbrowser is still a very complex task.

So for us this is learning curve and our USB HOST Controller does get better all the time.


Robert Downs

Posts 25
07 Jan 2020 20:21


Here is one I just confirmed works that can be added to the list.  Found commonly in the US at Best Buy:

Insignia Wired Low-Profile Optical Mouse model NS-PM819

EXTERNAL LINK


Markus B

Posts 121
08 Jan 2020 07:18


Interesting enough. I always assumed mice or keyboards would be implemented the same way, independent from the model.

I'm trying to figure out how the host controller is attached to the system. I assume it must be present at low level and it transparently passes mouse and keyboard to the OS?
Or is there an USB stack involved at OS level?


Nixus Minimax

Posts 405
08 Jan 2020 08:15


Markus B wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how the host controller is attached to the system. I assume it must be present at low level and it transparently passes mouse and keyboard to the OS?
  Or is there an USB stack involved at OS level?

No USB stack involved because otherwise USB mice and keyboards wouldn't work in floppy-disk games or in the early startup menu (which they do). You can read the left mouse button of the USB-mouse in the same place you have always done on an Amiga...



Boban Krsmanovic

Posts 3
08 Jan 2020 22:57


I guess, this is a good thread to ask this question.
Will standalone (in the future) going to be sold as a package with mouse and a keyboard?
Long story short: I won't purchase Vampire standalone anytime soon, but when I am purchasing it, I'd like to purchase mouse and keyboard with it.
It doesn't matter really.. just pick any most compatible keyboard and mouse, slap a vampire logo on top of them, and it will be great.
Add to the price 50-100 euro's of course.

Imho, many people think like me. We are very average users, and would like to pick up the package as a whole. I'd rather pay higher price, then, after vampire arrived at my home, I need to chase mouse and a keyboard.

Thanks, and keep up the awesome work!


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
08 Jan 2020 23:01


Boban Krsmanovic wrote:

  I guess, this is a good thread to ask this question.
  Will standalone (in the future) going to be sold as a package with mouse and a keyboard?
 

 
Yes I agree a complete /working bundle makes most sense.
Actually we offered the V4 already
with CF-adapter and CF and working Mouse from us.
 
 
Boban Krsmanovic wrote:

  Thanks, and keep up the awesome work!
 

 
  Many thanks
 


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1593
09 Jan 2020 01:16


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

  Yes I agree a complete /working bundle makes most sense.
  Actually we offered the V4 already
  with CF-adapter and CF and working Mouse from us.

There is another bit to it. Not all devices are easily avail on all markets, and not all goods travel really free. For e.g. EU Candidate countries or non-members (like UK soon :) import can add quite to the price per item. So package gets a lot more meaning, beside less hustle.



Michael AMike

Posts 85
09 Jan 2020 10:29


With the latest testcore I found one mouse in my collection which is working - I'm afraid not very helpfull for others because it's not available anymore. I'm quite happy because it's a mouse for left handed guys and the colour fits to the Vampire. :)

Razer Diamondback RZD-1600 Optical
EXTERNAL LINK 


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4450
09 Jan 2020 10:39


Michael AMike wrote:

With the latest testcore I found one mouse in my collection which is working - I'm afraid not very helpfull for others because it's not available anymore. I'm quite happy because it's a mouse for left handed guys and the colour fits to the Vampire. :)
 
  Razer Diamondback RZD-1600 Optical
  EXTERNAL LINK 

Thanks for the info. I'll add it to the list.
If you ship me one of these then I can test every release with it and make sure it will always work ;-)


Michael AMike

Posts 85
09 Jan 2020 12:20


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

  If you ship me one of these then I can test every release with it and make sure it will always work ;-)

I've five different mice - I hope one of them will always work with a new core. ;)


Martin White

Posts 80
09 Jan 2020 20:01


I had 5. I had to go and buy a 6th :)

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