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How to Install the V2+ In A500

Gerrit Aka Ethan

Posts 1
18 Dec 2017 19:58


Hi out there,

I got a preowned V2+ and I want to use it now in my A500 Plus. What do I have to do to use it in the best way?
Please step by step. WB 3.1, 3.5 and 3.9 are available. I have no idea what to patch, install etc.
Several CF up to 32GB are here.

Thank you.

Regards
ethan


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 3079
18 Dec 2017 20:00


Gerrit aka ethan wrote:

  I got a preowned V2+ and I want to use it now in my A500 Plus. What do I have to do to use it in the best way?
 

 
1) Remove the old 68000 CPU
2) Insert the VAMP into its socket.
3) As OS download APOLLO_OS, copy it from your PC to a 32GB CF

APOLLO OS has all drivers preinstalled.
Just Power-On and all works


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 732
18 Dec 2017 20:30


Gerrit aka ethan wrote:

    I got a preowned V2+ and I want to use it now in my A500 Plus. What do I have to do to use it in the best way?
    Please step by step. WB 3.1, 3.5 and 3.9 are available. I have no idea what to patch, install etc.
 

 
  CONGRATS!

You will need a PC to prep ApolloOS but  Gunnars proposition is a quick way. Requires a 32gb formated capacity SD Card (so not all generic 32gb will work, 32gb+ card is safe way to go). Hope one of your 32gb cards will pass.
 
Ah, ApolloOS download! (32gb Torrent image!)
EXTERNAL LINK 

  If you wish to look at the harder route:
 
  Drivers and tutorials
  http://wiki.apollo-accelerators.com/#apollo_accelerators_wiki
 
  Amitopia quick guide
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  Epsilons step by step guide part 1 (there is part 2)
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  OS 3.9 video install guide using WinUAE to prep
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  Good luck and come back with excitment!


Mallagan Bellator

Posts 233
19 Dec 2017 00:31


So in other words, drivers are needed? Like what drivers?
I understand that SAGA drivers will be needed for P96, but what else?
Isnít the vampire gonna work with just any installed AmigaOS?


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 3079
19 Dec 2017 00:48


Mallagan Bellator wrote:

So in other words, drivers are needed? Like what drivers?
  I understand that SAGA drivers will be needed for P96, but what else?
  Isnít the vampire gonna work with just any installed AmigaOS?

Yes, the CPU accelerator part works "out of the box".

To use the GFX card features, you need to install
the P96 from aminet, and configure it.
To be honest, the P96 config tool are "antique" from design are from today point of view not the most intuitive to use.
If you did use them on any AMIGA GFX card before you will have no problem - but if this is your first time using them,
then having a pre-installed system makes it easier.



Mallagan Bellator

Posts 233
19 Dec 2017 01:10


Well, I have voodoo 3 installed with P96, but unsure what version of P96 I have. Would it have to be the exact version from Aminet? Or would it be sufficient to just add the driver and the monitor file (with its icon) in the devs/monitors drawer? Then configure it? In an allready installed system, I mean.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 3079
19 Dec 2017 01:35


Mallagan Bellator wrote:

Well, I have voodoo 3 installed with P96, but unsure what version of P96 I have.

If you know AMIGA OS 3.x and P96 already then this is all a piece of cake for you. No need to worry.

But some users might only know AMIGA OS 1.2/1.3, for them having a DEVS/monitors folder is all new learning, also some people might not know what AMINET is - for them having a pre-installed system is very helpful.




Mallagan Bellator

Posts 233
19 Dec 2017 01:50


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  Well, I have voodoo 3 installed with P96, but unsure what version of P96 I have.
 

  If you know AMIGA OS 3.x and P96 already then this is all a piece of cake for you. No need to worry.
 
  But some users might only know AMIGA OS 1.2/1.3, for them having a DEVS/monitors folder is all new learning, also some people might not know what AMINET is - for them having a pre-installed system is very helpful.
 
 
 

Yeah, youíre right
What about 68040.library and/or 68060.library? Are those altered in any way shape or form to work better with the 080?


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 3079
19 Dec 2017 02:48


Mallagan Bellator wrote:

What about 68040.library and/or 68060.library? Are those altered in any way shape or form to work better with the 080?

The 68060 CPU misses a number of INTEGER instructions.
With the 68060 Library those instruction will be emulated by software.
Without this Library the 68060 would simply crash on many games/programs.

APOLLO 68080 does not miss any INTEGER instructions, therefore it can run all programs without help of this library.

The 68040 CPU is complete in regards to Integer instructions - just like the 68080. But the 68040 misses some Floating point instructions, like SIN().
All people agree that leaving them away in the 68040 was very reasonable as they were in HW also very slow. So calling software functions for them is not really slowing them down.
The most important FPU functions are all implemented in HW on the 68040, those rare and slow ones like SIN /COS are left out to be executed in SW - for this the 68040 library is there.



Mallagan Bellator

Posts 233
19 Dec 2017 03:16


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  What about 68040.library and/or 68060.library? Are those altered in any way shape or form to work better with the 080?
 

 
  The 68060 CPU misses a number of INTEGER instructions.
  With the 68060 Library those instruction will be emulated by software.
  Without this Library the 68060 would simply crash on many games/programs.
 
  APOLLO 68080 does not miss any INTEGER instructions, therefore it can run all programs without help of this library.
 
  The 68040 CPU is complete in regards to Integer instructions - just like the 68080. But the 68040 misses some Floating point instructions, like SIN().
 

So it was pretty much as I suspected, plus some bonus info that I never knew. Alright, awesome. Thanks Gunnar.
So, in other words, could it be that the 68040 library will let the 080 run any of the instructions missing or different in the 010 and 020, in software instead, and not just simply crash? Or is there a 68080 library for this? Btw, no time like night time, eh? ;)


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 3079
19 Dec 2017 04:09


Mallagan Bellator wrote:

So, in other words, could it be that the 68040 library will let the 080 run any of the instructions missing or different in the 010 and 020, in software instead, and not just simply crash?

Only the 680_60 misses Integers instructions and needs a library to not crash.

Neither the 68040 nor the 68080 miss any instructions.



Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 732
19 Dec 2017 13:21


Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  So in other words, drivers are needed? Like what drivers?
    I understand that SAGA drivers will be needed for P96, but what else?
    Isnít the vampire gonna work with just any installed AmigaOS?
 

 
  There is a core update, GOLD 2.5 is latest. It can be done from AmigaOS. Yes, that and SAGA are only drivers.
 
  Yes, card can work with any AOS, but needs just these two. Plus creation of P96 screenmodes for the card.
 
  Beside bundle of software and datafiles, ApolloOS comes with SAGA drivers preinstalled. See readme file on ApolloOS website for better understanding how it grown and what is included. Its not only Vamp ready, its also most rounded AOS package ever.
 
 
Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  What about 68040.library and/or 68060.library? Are those altered in any way shape or form to work better with the 080?
 

 
  Not altered nor needed for Vamp to work.

Mallagan Bellator wrote:

  So, in other words, could it be that the 68040 library will let the 080 run any of the instructions missing or different in the 010 and 020, in software instead, and not just simply crash? Or is there a 68080 library for this? Btw, no time like night time, eh? ;)

No, its all done by CPU (080)

Comaprison table is here
CLICK HERE


Andrew Copland

Posts 76
20 Dec 2017 13:30


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
 
  1) Remove the old 68000 CPU
  2) Insert the VAMP into its socket.
  3) As OS download APOLLO_OS, copy it from your PC to a 32GB CF
 
  APOLLO OS has all drivers preinstalled.
  Just Power-On and all works

Download link on APOLLO_OS page seems broken, does nothing.


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 732
20 Dec 2017 15:02


Andrew Copland wrote:

  Download link on APOLLO_OS page seems broken, does nothing.
 

 
  Yes, it is. Currently I can find low seeded for older 40p version
  EXTERNAL LINK 
I have also trying to seed 43P version (PFS fixed)
Try
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:A21C6D0FCFA045216005CDDDA9BA238B43FFC64B&dn=ApolloOS_CF32GB_r43P.img&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce

Let me know does it work.Please seed


Szyk Cech

Posts 152
20 Dec 2017 15:54


Andrew Copland wrote:

  Download link on APOLLO_OS page seems broken, does nothing.

Hint: Reinstall your WinDos and try again...



Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 732
20 Dec 2017 16:07


Szyk Cech wrote:

  Hint: Reinstall your WinDos and try again...

Its matter of BitTorrent client, magnet link.

Either magnet link on website is dead and dudo,
or Torrent has been removed (I opt for second, since
its not findable via Torrent Serachs either)



Darkulla Vampire

Posts 18
20 Dec 2017 20:39


Hello ALL.

No more need CF for ApolloOS!

You can read IMG image with WinUAE.

On WinUAE (load with ADMIN MODE), you go on "CD & Hard Drives"
From here, go on "Add hardfile... " and on PATH select your ApolloOS IMG.

When you start emulation, ApolloOS is loaded. yes ?
If yes, we can continue.

Press F12 for back in WinUAE config, and on "CD & Hard drives", go on "Add hard drive".

When you are on "Add hard drive..." click on Hard drive and let's the menu unwrapping and after select your hard drive or SSD.
Caution!!! The hard drive you want use, must be OFFLINE with windows! Not used by windows...

When is done, RESET on WinUAE and let's loading ApolloOS.
When ApolloOS are loaded, with HDToolBox you can find and partionne your futur AmigaHD with ApolloOS.

When your hard drive is partionned, just copy ALL files from "System" and "programs".

After all files copied, you must rename the HardDrive for AMIGA "System" for bootable partition and "Programs" for all apps ApolloOS.

Sorry for my bad english :-(

My config for WinUAE are:

ROM kickstart 3.1 40.68 A4000

CPU FPU:
68060 Fastest possible
JIT
CPU Internal

Chipset:
AGA

RAM:
Z3 1Gb

Expansion:
Accelerator Board Settings : Phase 5 CyberstormPPC

My WinUAE config with all ROM for starting: EXTERNAL LINK 
Load A4000PPC3HD and enjoy.



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