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Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1427
30 Aug 2019 21:19


IBROWSE 2.5 RELEASED!

30th August 2019 - Oliver Roberts and the IBrowse Team are pleased to
announce the immediate release of IBrowse 2.5 for AmigaOS 3.x and 4.x.
After many years in the making, development has been on a roller
coaster since IBrowse 2.4, with challenging personal, technical and
commercial issues complicating the release schedule. However, we are
extremely happy to finally make this new version available to all the
valued users who have been waiting so patiently.

IBrowse 2.5 fixes many bugs, making it the most stable and fastest
version yet, but more importantly brings modern SSL/TLS support and a
fully native AmigaOS 4.x build. Below is a very brief summary of the
key changes since version 2.4:

- Brand new OS4 PPC native version. This is not a simple port, but
    we have taken great care to ensure it fully utilises of all the
    relevant new features avaiable in OS4 and as such requires a
    minimum of OS4.1 Final Edition. Uses the new graphics.library RTG
    system, dropping CyberGraphX support completely. Other features
    include faster image rendering using hardware compositing,
    anti-aliased text rendering and proper daylight saving time
    handling.
 
  - Support for AmiSSLv4 has been added to IBrowse 2.5, allowing the
    use of the most up to date SSL implementation available for
    AmigaOS, including TLSv1.3, based on the most recent versions of
    OpenSSL.
 
  - Integrated with new MUI 4.0 and 5.0 features, including new context
    sensitive mouse pointers, support for various built-in MUI menus
    and other new GUI additions. MUI 3.8 is still supported (although
    we recommend 3.9 as a minimum).
 
  - Browser spoofing strings can now be customised in a variety of
    different ways with up to 128 user defined strings available in
    the preferences.
 
  - All the internal image decoders have been improved, with various
    fixes, alpha channel handling, and speed optimisations. The JPEG
    and PNG decoders now fully utilise the decoding improvements and
    optimisations from the current Warp Datatypes, which also
    includes AltiVec acceleration in the JPEG decoder.
 
  - Full alpha channel support on >= 15-bit displays (OS4 only).
 
  - 4Gb+ file handling and downloads, with files bigger than 2Gb now
    being handled properly in the GUI (OS4 only).
 
  - The OpenSearch standard is now supported for allowing search
    engines to automatically be added to the search bar, in addition
    to the existing older Sherlock/Mycroft support from IBrowse 2.4.
 
  - TextEditField object has had an overhaul, fixing various issues
    and adding new features. Rendering is done in a more MUI4/5
    compatible manner allowing these objects to inherit your MUI
    settings. Your mousewheel can now be used for scrolling and
    various MUI defined keyboard shortcuts are now honoured.
 
  - Improved general stability and memory leaks plugged.
 
  - Hundreds of other minor and major bug fixes + improvements, and
    increased tolerance of broken sites for better compatibility.
 
  IBrowse 2.5 is available directly from our website - to purchase
  the full version, please visit EXTERNAL LINK  (special discounted upgrades available to registered users of
  IBrowse 2.x and 1.x).
 


Roger Andre Lassen

Posts 79
30 Aug 2019 21:41


Finally !! :-)

Paypal, here i come :-)


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1427
30 Aug 2019 21:45


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Buy New Full IBrowse 2.5 Key  54,99 (EUR)
Upgrade from IBrowse 2.x  29,99 (EUR)
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Upgrade from IBrowse 2.x  14,99 (EUR)
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John William

Posts 453
30 Aug 2019 22:16


I am saving my money. I have Netsurf. That is sufficient enough for me and IT IS ALSO FOR FREE. I would take this money spend on ibrowse and donate to the author of netsurf instead. That would make more sense to me.

They couldn't even get this right:

- 4Gb+ file handling and downloads, with files bigger than 2Gb now
    being handled properly in the GUI (OS4 only).

OS4 only? -_-.....


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1427
30 Aug 2019 22:57


we can hope some of OS4 feats will be backported, but its clear Ibrowse will in 3+ also have some advanced OS4 feats only.
 
  So yes, I find Artis port dirties but most Vampiristic, even unofficial individual effort.
 
  For Vampires and 040 UAE
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  Source
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  Artis changelog
  EXTERNAL LINK   
  Adding MUI 4+ interface and few nice Ibrowse feats, and that would be my browser. Even for 20 eur. 50 eur for html3+ browser update is just too much, even with key I can hope 3 will be 15 eur.
 
 
 
  Version:      3.8  (15.10.2018)
  Architecture: m68k-amigaos >= 3.0.0
 
  NetSurf CSS capable web browser AmigaOS 3.x version by Artur Jarosik
 
  Original authors: NetSurf contributors
  Email:  arturjarosik gmail/com
 
  NetSurf is the only CSS capable web browser on AmigaOS 3.x also available
  for many other platforms including RiscOS, Linux, Haiku and Atari.
  It is based on sdl framebuffer frontend but adds more functions to GUI.
  The 68k code is not related to NetSurf for OS4 and is not representative of
  the user interface of NetSurf on any other platform.
 
  Please report any bugs or requests to my e-mail. Any feedback is appreciated.
  NetSurf 68k homepage: EXTERNAL LINK  You can get older versions here if current one isn't working
  or get latest for testing.
 
  68k sources  EXTERNAL LINK 
  Original sources  EXTERNAL LINK  There is official m68k toolchain available for building netsurf on linux:
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  If you had any problem with compiling sources
  please contact with me, I will surely help.
 
  Requirements:
  =============
 
    * AmigaOS 3.x
    * Picasso / CGX compatible graphic card or AGA.
    * 32 MB Ram (64MB for complex sites).
    * 68020+ CPU, for usable speed fast 68060 is required.
    * MUI 3.8+ for Preferences and url bar
    * Copy contents of env folder to envarc: for wallget profile
    * Minimum 100000  stack size
    * Assign SSLROOT: SYS:
    * Unzip in C: for Auto Update
 
      Optional:
      --------
      * FFplay in C for video playback
      * Amplifier or other capable of audio streaming program
      * Hipoplayer, Eagleplayer, DeliTracket2
      * OpenURL for mailto:
      * Cloudconvert.com API key for auto mpeg 1 conversion
      * Riva player  for mpeg 1 video playback
 
  Features:
  =========
 
    * Web standards: HTML 4.01 and CSS 2.1
    * HTTPS for secure online transactions
    * Local history trees
    * Hotlist manager (bookmarks)
    * Themes
    * Favourite buttons
    * Unicode text
    * Video/audio streaming & youtube playback
    * Online video conversion to mpeg 1
    * Save pages complete with images
    * Quick search bar
    * Web page thumbnailing
    * Fast, lightweight layout and rendering engine
    * Three download managers (wallget, wget, httpresume)
    * MUI Preferences
 
  Usage:
  ======
    * Go back and forward with ctrl/alt + left/right or 6 and 7 mouse button..
    * Move to top or bottom with ctrl/alt + up/down.
    * F4 - Play youtube video on current site.
    * F5 - Refresh.
    * F6 - Restart.
    * F7 - Restart to current page.
    * Delete links from bookmarks - move over link and press Delete key.
    * Copy/paste link of current website buttons are  placed
      on the right side under searchbar.
    * Play videos from youtube with ffplay - open site with
      video you want to watch and press third button from the right.
      Use youtube_autoplay:1 option to enable autoplay after download.
      Video is saved to ram:video.mp4.
    * Set currently open page as homepage - small button with home.
    * Change current search engine - button placed next to search bar.
    * Download page - button with down arrow.
    * To change theme use 'theme' option. Use name of theme folder.
      Path is "PROGDIR:Resources/theme/<name here>". 
 
  Mpeg 1 auto conversion How To:
  ==============================
  To play videos, including youtube, as mpeg 1
  you need to login to EXTERNAL LINK  Go to Dashboard/Subscription details and copy API key.
  Open NetSurf Preferences/Other and paste it to API key edit box.
  Select Mpeg 1 player as RIVA.
  File size limit is 100 MB  and 30 conversions a day.
 
  Amiga options:
 
  window_depth:              change bpp according to your desktop (32)
  mobile_mode:              open site in mobile mode if available (0)
  youtube_autoplay:        play yt video automatically (1)
  download_path:            default is SYS:Internet/Downloads/
  download_manager:      choose betwen: wallget, wget or httpresume (wallget)
  def_search_bar:            set dafault search engine (google)
  text_editor:                  open Options file in text_editor (sys:c/ed)
  net_player:                  click on link to stream audio/video file (c:ffplay)
  accept_charset:            set charset according to your country (ISO-8859-2)
  theme:                        change theme of buttons  (default)
 
  Non Amiga options are explained in Docs/Options.
 
  Defaults are in brackets. Options set to default are not visible in Options file. 
 
 
  Thanks to Bernd Roesch for his bugfixed/improved SDL libraries and
  big endian rendering fix.
  Ken Lester Jr. and Martin Merz for icons.
  Alper Sönmez for installer script.
  Chris Raynor for SDL AGA.
  NetSurf team.
 
  See EXTERNAL LINK for more information about NetSurf.
  Visit EXTERNAL LINK for my  68k game ports.
 
  Working on NetSurf takes a lot of time.
  Support NetSurf 68k to paypal arturjarosik gmail com.
  Thanks :)
 


John William

Posts 453
30 Aug 2019 23:26


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

  we can hope some of OS4 feats will be backported, but its clear Ibrowse will in 3+ also have some advanced OS4 feats only.
   
    So yes, I find Artis port dirties but most Vampiristic, even unofficial individual effort.
   
    For Vampires and 040 UAE
    EXTERNAL LINK     
    Source
    EXTERNAL LINK     
    Artis changelog
    EXTERNAL LINK     
    Adding MUI 4+ interface and few nice Ibrowse feats, and that would be my browser. Even for 20 eur. 50 eur for html3+ browser update is just too much, even with key I can hope 3 will be 15 eur.
   
   
   
    Version:      3.8  (15.10.2018)
    Architecture: m68k-amigaos >= 3.0.0
   
    NetSurf CSS capable web browser AmigaOS 3.x version by Artur Jarosik
   
    Original authors: NetSurf contributors
    Email:  arturjarosik gmail/com
   
    NetSurf is the only CSS capable web browser on AmigaOS 3.x also available
    for many other platforms including RiscOS, Linux, Haiku and Atari.
    It is based on sdl framebuffer frontend but adds more functions to GUI.
    The 68k code is not related to NetSurf for OS4 and is not representative of
    the user interface of NetSurf on any other platform.
   
    Please report any bugs or requests to my e-mail. Any feedback is appreciated.
    NetSurf 68k homepage: EXTERNAL LINK    You can get older versions here if current one isn't working
    or get latest for testing.
   
    68k sources  EXTERNAL LINK 
    Original sources  EXTERNAL LINK    There is official m68k toolchain available for building netsurf on linux:
    EXTERNAL LINK   
    If you had any problem with compiling sources
    please contact with me, I will surely help.
   
    Requirements:
    =============
   
      * AmigaOS 3.x
      * Picasso / CGX compatible graphic card or AGA.
      * 32 MB Ram (64MB for complex sites).
      * 68020+ CPU, for usable speed fast 68060 is required.
      * MUI 3.8+ for Preferences and url bar
      * Copy contents of env folder to envarc: for wallget profile
      * Minimum 100000  stack size
      * Assign SSLROOT: SYS:
      * Unzip in C: for Auto Update
   
        Optional:
        --------
        * FFplay in C for video playback
        * Amplifier or other capable of audio streaming program
        * Hipoplayer, Eagleplayer, DeliTracket2
        * OpenURL for mailto:
        * Cloudconvert.com API key for auto mpeg 1 conversion
        * Riva player  for mpeg 1 video playback
   
    Features:
    =========
   
      * Web standards: HTML 4.01 and CSS 2.1
      * HTTPS for secure online transactions
      * Local history trees
      * Hotlist manager (bookmarks)
      * Themes
      * Favourite buttons
      * Unicode text
      * Video/audio streaming & youtube playback
      * Online video conversion to mpeg 1
      * Save pages complete with images
      * Quick search bar
      * Web page thumbnailing
      * Fast, lightweight layout and rendering engine
      * Three download managers (wallget, wget, httpresume)
      * MUI Preferences
   
    Usage:
    ======
      * Go back and forward with ctrl/alt + left/right or 6 and 7 mouse button..
      * Move to top or bottom with ctrl/alt + up/down.
      * F4 - Play youtube video on current site.
      * F5 - Refresh.
      * F6 - Restart.
      * F7 - Restart to current page.
      * Delete links from bookmarks - move over link and press Delete key.
      * Copy/paste link of current website buttons are  placed
        on the right side under searchbar.
      * Play videos from youtube with ffplay - open site with
        video you want to watch and press third button from the right.
        Use youtube_autoplay:1 option to enable autoplay after download.
        Video is saved to ram:video.mp4.
      * Set currently open page as homepage - small button with home.
      * Change current search engine - button placed next to search bar.
      * Download page - button with down arrow.
      * To change theme use 'theme' option. Use name of theme folder.
        Path is "PROGDIR:Resources/theme/<name here>". 
   
    Mpeg 1 auto conversion How To:
    ==============================
    To play videos, including youtube, as mpeg 1
    you need to login to EXTERNAL LINK    Go to Dashboard/Subscription details and copy API key.
    Open NetSurf Preferences/Other and paste it to API key edit box.
    Select Mpeg 1 player as RIVA.
    File size limit is 100 MB  and 30 conversions a day.
   
    Amiga options:
   
    window_depth:              change bpp according to your desktop (32)
    mobile_mode:              open site in mobile mode if available (0)
    youtube_autoplay:        play yt video automatically (1)
    download_path:            default is SYS:Internet/Downloads/
    download_manager:      choose betwen: wallget, wget or httpresume (wallget)
    def_search_bar:            set dafault search engine (google)
    text_editor:                  open Options file in text_editor (sys:c/ed)
    net_player:                  click on link to stream audio/video file (c:ffplay)
    accept_charset:            set charset according to your country (ISO-8859-2)
    theme:                        change theme of buttons  (default)
   
    Non Amiga options are explained in Docs/Options.
   
    Defaults are in brackets. Options set to default are not visible in Options file. 
   
   
    Thanks to Bernd Roesch for his bugfixed/improved SDL libraries and
    big endian rendering fix.
    Ken Lester Jr. and Martin Merz for icons.
    Alper Sönmez for installer script.
    Chris Raynor for SDL AGA.
    NetSurf team.
   
    See EXTERNAL LINK for more information about NetSurf.
    Visit EXTERNAL LINK for my  68k game ports.
   
    Working on NetSurf takes a lot of time.
    Support NetSurf 68k to paypal arturjarosik gmail com.
    Thanks :)
   
 

 
  The only way arti can give us what we want..which is a MUI interface system, better download management, integrated menu system, go to preference under the menu like any browsers, have ability to have a bookmark stored under your menu like a normal browser....etc...the only way that can be done...is to donate to him and give him money.
 
  Arti cannot do this on his own...impossible for one person to do it.....but if we give  him good amount of cash...he can take this for example and get more bodies to help make this...THE ULTIMATE browser. It could come as close as Odyssey browser from MorphOS or even AROS x86...anything is possible. Vampire hardware is becoming stronger each new release...we support the hardware...we may get ASIC in future..who knows...you have ASIC in future...the excuse of ...your hardware is too weak to support modern browser goes out the window. Support Arti...he will make the browser modern...
 
 
  it all goes back to support from the community....waving your hands and tantrum like a baby will bring nothing.....people should think where they would need to put their support....I hope people make the smart decision however.
 


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4175
31 Aug 2019 06:06


I have the impression that the Ibrowse 2.5 release is very disappointing for 68k users.
   
Most of the development effort seems to be done into porting the browser to PPC.

Ibrowse, Voyager and AWEB were state of the art browser in the 90th.
At that time you could use them for normal Internet access.

But HTML standards did change and all these 3 browser can only display few websites today.

Ibrowse 2.5 still can not display modern HTML and can not show todays websites correctly.
Its a pity that not much work was done in this regard.
The free Netsurf is _much_ better to display modern websites.
   
 
  If you decide to buy Ibrowse,
  be advised to disable its buildin JPEG decoder
  and instead use the AMMX dataype on your system!
  The AMMX datatype is a lot faster than the buildin decoder in Ibrowse.
   


Sean Sk

Posts 288
31 Aug 2019 07:11


John William wrote:

I am saving my money. I have Netsurf. That is sufficient enough for me and IT IS ALSO FOR FREE. I would take this money spend on ibrowse and donate to the author of netsurf instead. That would make more sense to me.

Agreed.

Paying 55 euro for something that, from my initial testing, is only a little bit better than iBrowse 2.4 is way too much money. I have a sneaking suspicion that most efforts will be concentrated on PPC development.



Mr-Z EdgeOfPanic

Posts 181
31 Aug 2019 07:53


Strange that they do so much more effort for PPC development since there are a lot more 68K users, it being Vampire users or WinUAE users, i think those outnumber PPC users by far.


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1427
31 Aug 2019 10:22


Mr-Z EdgeOfPanic wrote:

  Strange that they do so much more effort for PPC development since there are a lot more 68K users, it being Vampire users or WinUAE users, i think those outnumber PPC users by far.
 

 
  Ibrowse is default OS4 browser, even it was up to now, m68k.
  Welcome to IBrowse 2.4 OEM for AmigaOS4
  EXTERNAL LINK 
  On sidenote, just seen Amitropia has interviews with Trump and Carl Marx.

I will just add that official m68k port of Netsurf is 3.9, a bit newer then Artis:
EXTERNAL LINK


Olaf Schoenweiss

Posts 517
31 Aug 2019 11:54


Paying 54 EUR for a browser that is stone age in todays terms is weird. And if they concentrate on their beloved AOS4 then it is their choice. I am self employed, I have to concentrate where the potential money is. For me such priorities are not understandable. But it is their choice.

A new modern up-to-date browser with new GUI and the promise to keep it up to date in future might worth 54 EUR but not this. But this has everyone to decide for himself.


Pedro Cotter
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 215
31 Aug 2019 13:25


Not worth the money. At least the 68k version. Have no opinion about the PPC thing version.


Sean Sk

Posts 288
31 Aug 2019 13:28


Generally my browsing sessions on iBrowse never usually exceed 30 minutes anyway, so I think I will stick with the demo version. And even if the program closes after 30 minutes I don't mind re-opening it again if I need to go longer. Meh.


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1427
31 Aug 2019 15:05


sean sk wrote:

Generally my browsing sessions on iBrowse never usually exceed 30 minutes anyway, so I think I will stick with the demo version. And even if the program closes after 30 minutes I don't mind re-opening it again if I need to go longer. Meh.

68k demo Can be downloaded
EXTERNAL LINK 
Flash plugin, amiSSL and MUI Are required for full functionality and can also be downloaded from here
EXTERNAL LINK 

On os4 side: owb, Odyssey are mui and way more advanced but Ibrowse Has most Amiga GUI feel.

On html3 days: I preferred Voyager 3 and other VapourWare sotware for chat, even metalWeb. Too bad they have really gone Vapor, no website, just memory and few evidences on aminet


Sean Sk

Posts 288
31 Aug 2019 16:14


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

68k demo Can be downloaded

 
Yes I know this. I'm using it at the moment and hence why I said I will just stick with the demo version. I sometimes use iBrowse instead of NetSurf, but only for certain websites because it is still a bit quicker than NetSurf. Otherwise, NetSurf is still my preferred browser.
 
iBrowse in its current form is not worth the 54,99 Euro.


John William

Posts 453
31 Aug 2019 16:51


Honestly...the only update I want from netsurf (in Netsurf 4.0) is support of the new SSL where it can open all encrypted https: without any issue. If Netsurf 4.0 only offer THIS one feature...I am content with no update of netsurf for years to come.
 
  I am really enjoying watching movies on my DVD (burned and converted) then youtube it on my Amiga. Serious. I love the experience of downloading a movie, converting to mpg, burning it into a dvd and then shoving it in the tray...THAT IS MY NEW FETISH now.......I am enjoying this entire process MORE than just plain watching movie online.
 
  For example, I am watching Alien Covenant on my Amiga 500 now...via my DVD...FUN..FUN..FUN...FUN.....but if netsurf have that AmiSSL updated (into it) where I can view https: like that....to me...the browser 68k for Amiga is complete. I can do almost all my essential browsing just fine.
 
  With Netsurf I can view pictures when I go google and click images...but because NOW most sites are https: and they have the latest encryption...Netsurf is unable to view them...it need just update. However, it renders all pages 100% perfect..from google.com to any website...even youtube.....
 
  So we need to focus on this browser. I think netsurf should be part of the integrated browser with Vampire default OS like Microsoft did with Windows and internet explorer. I pray..that for every new release of netsurf it is noticeably better than the previous version : adding more stability, more features and new looks and interfaces....
 
  I guarantee you...even MorphOS/AmigaOS4/AROS will be using Netsurf as their main browser if it get the support it needs....
 
  The best part about it...new generations will have the same browser on their PC/Windows/Mac/Linux as they do on Amiga since this browser is open source and is ported on other platforms....Amiga is using  a mainstream browser if you look at it...
 


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 333
31 Aug 2019 17:52


On Ibrowse shopping page there are two price tags for upgrading to os4+os3 version or to just update Os3.x one. But there's only a price to buy a new key! 55 euros could be Ok for a new, never released Os4 version, but is an abnormity for the updated 68k version. A price tag of 35 euros for 68k version-only would be a natural option. I don't need ibrowse key for Os4, why I have to pay for that??


Olaf Schoenweiss

Posts 517
31 Aug 2019 18:21


similar as on personal paint...

the developers concentrated on OS4 but want to milk the 68k market


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 333
31 Aug 2019 19:01


Silly thing. The Os3 upgrade for 2.x registered Ibrowse is on 15 euros range, that's perfectly acceptable.
A new Os 3 licence must be on 30-35 euros range to be sellable.



Kamelito Loveless

Posts 57
31 Aug 2019 19:11


Let me make an analogy with WinUAE, why buy a Vampire if WinUAE is more compatible with a real Amiga than a Vampire and it cost less...
I guess it is not fair to "attack" Ibrowse like this, I suppose that if sales goes well they'll improve the compatibility with actual standard. I'd say if their plan is to playing catch up it is not a bad deal but it'll take time like always in the Amiga land.

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