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Aros ApolloOS Playing With SIDs

Pedro Cotter
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 274
14 Sep 2020 06:13


Playing with a Commodore C64 SID emulator on Aros ApolloOS distro

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Distro
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Nick Fellows
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 36
15 Sep 2020 08:57


Wouldnt it be awesome if there was an FPGA Sid as part of the Core ? I never understood why they didnt keep SID and just add digital audio when the amiga came out.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4893
15 Sep 2020 10:23


nick fellows wrote:

Wouldnt it be awesome if there was an FPGA Sid as part of the Core ? I never understood why they didnt keep SID and just add digital audio when the amiga came out.

SID was cool at its time.
I will forever love some tunes by Rob Hubbard.
And SID surely had a very unique sound...

But the DMA driven Audio system on AMIGA opened a complete new dimension. I think the Amiga system is very flexible.
Maybe the question should be "Does it miss anything"?


Olaf Schoenweiss

Posts 652
16 Sep 2020 11:05


Amiga was not a Commodore project at the beginning, it was designed as a game console and later extended to a full computer. Then Commodore bought it.


Robo Kupka

Posts 6
16 Sep 2020 13:23


I think having SID reimpplemented in FPGA is great for C64 and its clones. But for Amiga, where it newer was.... it would be couterproductive and only increased costs. Besides, you can easily emulate it with software and very short waveform samples, as many little demos and cracktros did.
In Amiga world, we are used to play PCM samples. So natural improvement is that we went from 8 to 16 bit samples, and software overhead necessary to play sound is ridiculously small.
For the sake of SID nostalgia, either play emulated SID, or get yourself amazing Ultimate64 and some modern SID replacements. They work great, I myself got 2 of them.



Amiga 4Life

Posts 81
19 Sep 2020 14:59


I don't think Sid was ever a hit with Amiga users...
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Paula was a game changer .. EXTERNAL LINK  The blips and bleeps from the Sid chip didn't cut it any more once you heard the sound effects and musical instruments from Paula...


Nick Fellows
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 36
20 Sep 2020 09:44


Yes , analog filters.


Nick Fellows
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 36
20 Sep 2020 15:46


This is probably not the place to go into the finer points of music / sound composition . But from a electronic music point of view the SID chip is to the Moog, what Paula is the the Fairlight . Both awesome and first in class. When it boils down to it the feature really lacking from Paula was SID like filters. I think i could have lived with that comprimise - i was always dissappointed at this particular feature being absent when i got my amiga, its sampled sound was a good enough to keep me occuppied. Im very interested in using my vampire 1200 to revisit those days again. Never underestimate SID - no other sound chip has anywhere near its character or power ...

Stock Sid chip :-
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Heres the Sid playing amiga modules

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- later in the video doing something the amiga never good -
using the sids filters with the digital samples.




James Husted

Posts 13
20 Sep 2020 16:59


Im not a big fan of SID always loved the YM chips found in the later speccies and amstrads!!! now those chip tunes make my nipples hard!

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