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Idea of AROS KS Improvement Bounty

Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1628
20 Dec 2019 17:11


Dear fellow Amigans,
     
  Aros is great, but maybe we could improve AROS more ?
  and first step might be improve the AROS kickstart.
 
  - being able to fully Workbench of OS 3.1
    Currently there are some minor errors
 
  Should it be continuation of ?
  EXTERNAL LINK     
  Power2People would host such bounty.
     
  Description and coder proposals are welcomed first
  I would donate small amount first.
 
  What do you think?


Wawa T

Posts 695
20 Dec 2019 17:33


im not sure we need a bounty as such. bounties have the tendency to accumulate funds and have them laying around unused and inaccessible just in hope some developer will come across pick them up and actually deliver. it has worked once to an extent but the dev base has grown thin.

today you can actually direct a financial support to the developers actively working on what you desire, allowing them to invest all that time and resources into the project, they otherwise had to spend elsewhere.

you can observe the development here and who is doing what:

EXTERNAL LINK 
note how much work has been invested lately into amiga platform, including chipset support, lowering demands, correctly supporting peripherals like keyboards and the like.

you can read also the intended roadmap here:

EXTERNAL LINK 
as far i know vampire hidd (rtg driver is also planned)


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1628
20 Dec 2019 18:00


Ok, Is Kalamatee improving ks in described manner?
     
      Does he have Parteon, Pay Pal?
     
      Let's leave hidd, lab and rtg (and advanced ks features) after boot is fixed.
     
      Tell us more of current Aros ks replacement booting wb3.1-3.9 troubles?
   
    How do you find "AROS in ROM/RAM" idea? Memory and resource waste or would make it fast and snappy as no OS ever?
 
  How performance critical is RTG driver, how large it could be? (could it fit ROM and would it bring any stability/improvement?)

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PLEASE support the AROS devs! Send an XMas paypal gift to kalamatee@gmail.com 
     


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4551
20 Dec 2019 19:33


Vojin Vidanovic wrote:

  Dear fellow Amigans,
     
    Aros is great, but maybe we could improve AROS more ?
    and first step might be improve the AROS kickstart.
   
    - being able to fully Workbench of OS 3.1
      Currently there are some minor errors
   
  ...
 
    What do you think?
 

 
  I fully agree with you!
  You are 100% spot on.
 
  Yes, AROS kickstart is good today!
  There are some minor glitches when booting Workbench/BetterWb /etc
 
  If those glitches could be fixed then AROS would be a great free replacement for AMIGA KICK.
 
  I vote for this!
 


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1628
20 Dec 2019 21:30


OK So, its "Gnome pants" op in 3 steps:
 
  Phase 1- Basic fixing of KS (Assigned to ? in AROS team)
  Phase 2 - RTG SpeedUp on V2 and V4 (Assigned to ? in AROS team)
  Phase 3 - PAL GFX code speedup on AROS using SAGA (Assigned to ? in AROS team)
 
  Phase 4 - AROS "fixed", Non profit, FLOSS, just pizzas and bears for developers meanwhile! Some more AROS x86/x64 APP backports and 080 optimizations of critical components? Separate 080 branch m68k?
 
  Please, give us where to send beer :)
 


Wawa T

Posts 695
20 Dec 2019 21:39


@gunnar
im currently working integrating scalos in the image you gave me (minicotter) instead of wanderer. btw, how is upgedated aros rom loaded on v4? i mean aros bootstrap wont load aros.hunk.gz because it detects that aros already runs. so outdated rom will be used i assume?


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 4551
20 Dec 2019 21:59


wawa t wrote:

@gunnar
  im currently working integrating scalos in the image you gave me ?

Super thanks
How about can you join us in IRC ?
Maybe we can then work altogether?


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1628
20 Dec 2019 22:10


- Basic fixing of KS (Kalamatee?)
  - RTG SpeedUp on V2 and V4 (Assigned to ? in AROS team)
  - PAL GFX code speedup on AROS using SAGA (Assigned to ? in AROS team)
  - ScalOS integration (Wawa)

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PLEASE support the AROS devs! Send an XMas paypal gift to kalamatee@gmail.com


Wawa T

Posts 695
20 Dec 2019 22:19


@vojin
all the above tasks are actally assigned to nick by himself. i dont know what michalwill do. likely they will coperate on these, but its not for me to tell.

scalos integration is not a task worth mention. i have already did t and it is working. just need to tweak it, but now saving prefs crashes so that probably needs to be figured out.


Wawa T

Posts 695
20 Dec 2019 23:17


@gunnar
joined but none there. ill post the updated image asap somewhere.



Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 1628
20 Dec 2019 23:19


wawa t wrote:

@vojin
  all the above tasks are actally assigned to nick by himself. i dont know what michalwill do. likely they will coperate on these, but its not for me to tell.

Let us then all sponsor Nick, give us his Parteon/Pay Pal :)
He can share by merits.

Dont underestimate ScalOS optimization, its a great piece of improvement in GUI and features, never made official OS but well deserved.




Wawa T

Posts 695
20 Dec 2019 23:38


current minicotter with scalos:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AuvzEgbTrkxPgeoIL6CdlXbFcPl7Mw?e=c6INim


Wawa T

Posts 695
20 Dec 2019 23:39


note that savng scalos prefs causes problems.


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