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Playing With PAMpage  1 2 

Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 3529
30 May 2017 12:56


PAMELA is the audio chip of SAGA.
 
PAMELA offers
* fully compatible to PAULA
* 8 hardware AUDIO channel
* support for 8bit and 16bit samples
* high quality sample rates like 44 kHz / 48 kHz / 56 khz on any Screenmode (also 15Khz)
* full DMA support, HW Mixing.
* DMA can all access Vampire memory (up to 128 MB for samples!)
 
 
 
Basically PAMELA offers the AUDIO features of the never released A-A-A AMIGA Chipset.


John Heritage

Posts 108
30 May 2017 13:41


Wow!  Great job Gunnar and team!  Paula compatibility with the enhanced features is excellent :). 

IIRC I think Mary had up to 100 kHz sample rate, although I'm not sure what that buys..  56 kHz at least means high quality STE samples would work effortlessly (I think they were either 56khz or 50066 hz or similar)


Obetto Sannala

Posts 61
30 May 2017 13:53


Amazing job! Octamed, I'm coming back... :-)


Marlon Beijer

Posts 124
30 May 2017 14:18


Obetto Sannala wrote:

Amazing job! Octamed, I'm coming back... :-)

This! When AGA + PAM are in the core, it'll be my music station! :D


David Wright

Posts 294
30 May 2017 14:36


Provocative thread title.


Carlos Peris

Posts 11
30 May 2017 15:12


This is truly awesome! Good work


Javier R. Santurde

Posts 15
30 May 2017 17:34


This sounds great! And an AHI driver would be fantastic.


Cyber Gorf
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Posts 39/ 1
30 May 2017 18:12


This sound sounds sound!

Pam should have been in AGA... but better late than never! :-) Great news!


Matthew Langtry

Posts 145
09 Jun 2017 15:01


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

PAMELA is the audio chip of SAGA.
 
  PAMELA offers
  * fully compatible to PAULA
  * 8 hardware AUDIO channel
  * support for 8bit and 16bit samples
  * high quality sample rates like 44 kHz / 48 kHz / 56 khz on any Screenmode (also 15Khz)
  * full DMA support, HW Mixing.
  * DMA can all access Vampire memory (up to 128 MB for samples!)
 
 
 
  Basically PAMELA offers the AUDIO features of the never released A-A-A AMIGA Chipset.

Will sound from Pamela go through hdmi or normal stereo phono ports?



Johannes Schäfer

Posts 46
09 Jun 2017 19:29


The stereo audio ports are connected to Paula.

PAM will go out through DIGITAL-VIDEO on Vampire cards.
On the standalone board there could be an analog output in addition to the DIGITAL-VIDEO of course.

But let´s wait for the release of the standalone, then we will see.


David Wright

Posts 294
09 Jun 2017 19:34


Sound through hdmi only? Wouldn't that mean only tv or monitors with speakers?
Unfamiliar with hdmi sound output other than home entertainment.

My Amiga set up uses a soundbar,


Johannes Schäfer

Posts 46
09 Jun 2017 20:28


I can speak only for my setup. I use an ASUS VK246H monitor with DIGITAL-VIDEO. This monitor has analog audio out connected to my Telefunken Hifi Studio HP 800 from 1985. As far as I have seen mostly all DIGITAL-VIDEO TV/monitors have an analog output (headset out).

 


Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
09 Jun 2017 21:16


- Suggestion: Please keep audio out on standalone, chinch stereo out L/R or in one. Some people do have speakers >:-) HMDI audio out is nice and dandy for those TVs, but they got sound ilussion :-)

- Impression> Yup, real triple A rated!
            ... greatest/best integrated hi-fi :-)

- Question (should be YES automatically, but ...)  Will AHI Paula driver work with (obviously Paula) features out of box and full HW Paula compatibility is retained for Classic games n music titles?A

One Time A Lot Of Sound Trivia
    --------------------------------------------
    REGGAE SOUND SYSTEM: KILL A NEXT SOUND
    --------------------------------------------
        Offtopic but nice: Reggae has "killing competitive sound (system) tradion". So some German/Polish "My sound rules" tunes fi sound test
        With Video! Come Test!
        * Dr Ring Ding & Dreadsquad - Come Test (Official video)
        EXTERNAL LINK        Audio only -  * DREADSQUAD ft. Ring Ding - Your Sound is Done [ Egoless version, riddim & dub  EXTERNAL LINK        * Dr Ring Ding - My Sound EXTERNAL LINK          Since Sound Systems go back to homeyard dances (dance halls) tradition in Jamaica (transported to US by DJ Cool Hetz as hip hop) people that are long time performing are "sound man" and "old veterans". Same could be our trackers n hackers (big up our local DJ Nick - Trance Snake Man! EXTERNAL LINK )
      * Macka B - Sound Man EXTERNAL LINK        * Macka B - Old Veteran EXTERNAL LINK        ------------------------
      DJ Nicks Trance and techno
      -------------------------
      And yes, some trance n techno from 90s Serbia all done on Paula!
      (all done by todays childrens hero!)
     
      Evil Toothbrush, Amiga, Serbian girls and horror!
      EXTERNAL LINK            * Tribute to Paula and Amiga games  EXTERNAL LINK  * Ressurection LP EXTERNAL LINK 1997
    21st century refixes inna ReNoise (weee need mightier tracker :)
    But man behind the sound remains the same
    * Pandoras Box EXTERNAL LINK      * Last Ninja Remix EXTERNAL LINK      * Capital Punishment EXTERNAL LINK      * Slam Tilt EXTERNAL LINK     
      -----------
      Local stuff *dont play unless you understand Serbian/Bosnian/Croatian
      --------------
      * Dubwize Banja Luka "Energetsko more" (big up Majsta, Djole ...)
      EXTERNAL LINK      * Roots "Jos ima nade" (complete ex YU Demo scene! big up)
      EXTERNAL LINK    * Ju ide Zmija - trance da children
    EXTERNAL LINK


Gregthe Canuck

Posts 270
10 Jun 2017 00:30



David - there are also DIGITAL-VIDEO splitters that allow you to pull the audio. There are all kinds of them on eBay for cheap ($10 or less).




Vojin Vidanovic

Posts 770
10 Jun 2017 01:02


First ex-Yu Amiga module LP to my knowledge
   
    TECHNO-ACTIVE 1993
    EXTERNAL LINK     
    DJNick Deltatronic - Teknoactive - by Nykk Deetronic (1993) First techno album ever released in Serbia in 1993 totally created on Amiga 500 in Protracker music program. All songs had only 4 channels. This is how it began!
 
  "Teknoactive" album is released on tape by T.I.O.L.I [Take It or Leave It Records] and this is song list [side A and side B] mixed in one long track:
 
  00:00 - 04:49 01 Komunizam je mrtav! // 125 bpm - hard techno
  * 04:49 - 10:39 02 Welcome to Hell // 139 bpm - hard techno
  * 10:39 - 14:10 03 Fuck the Nation // 130 bpm - hard techno
    * 14:10 - 20:29 04 Fall in Love // 100 bpm - ballade
  *  20:29 - 24:12 05 Incredible Wave // 134 bpm - techno
  * 24:12 - 28:00 06 Underground // 125 bpm - breakbeat
  * 28:00 - 35:12  07 Danger // 131 bpm - breakbeat
  * 35:12 - 40:30  08 She's Gone // 95 bpm - ballade
  * 40:30 - 44:27 09 Don't Move! // 134 bpm - breakbeat
  * 44:27 - 48:26 10 Gimme the Beat! // 133 bpm - techno dance
  * 48:26 - 48:49 11 Trauma // 166 bpm - rave
  * 48:49 - 53:07 12 Lord of the Risin' Sun // 108 bpm - ballade
  * 53:07 - 56:53 13 Paranoya // 145 bpm - breakbeat
    * = Hard Core! Censored!
    -----------------------------------
    A bit of trivia and modules download
    ----------------------------------------
    "Communism is dead" (srb/cro/bos "Komunizam je mrtav!") brave sample inna 1993 A500 Paula 4ch techno
   
    Too much happy HC and 2 Unlimited influences fi mi ear,
    and communism did not die until 5 Oct 2000 but ... history is history.
    Thanks, and there will be no more local Amiga music history posts
   
    Some 100MB Mods for interested >:-) EXTERNAL LINK 
  • 68 Songs [MOD, MED & DBM files] for Demo Scene or Personal
  • 20 Songs from Capital Punishment Amiga Game [1996]
  • 16 Songs from The Resurrection album [OctaMED SS files, 1997]
  • 5 Songs for other Rap Groups [1993-1996]
  • 12 Never Finished OctaMED S.S. Songs [1995-1999]
  • Some Bonus Photos of Old PPC Amiga Computer & New Amiga

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AAA Chipset trivia
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Mary didnt make it :-)

"Updated version of Paula called 'Mary' with 8 voices that can be assigned either to left or right channel; each channel has 16-bit resolution with up to 100 kHz sample rate; additionally it does 8-bit audio sampling input."


Mr Niding

Posts 299
20 Jun 2017 19:46


Noticed this; http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1166382#post1166382

This is my fixed version: EXTERNAL LINK 
it requires premake4 to create the makefile.

I'm not done with optimizations, so currently it only runs at a decent speed in UAE-JIT 040. Just fyi.

Browsing files inside milkytracker doesn't work either, so you have to load files from commandline. So it's far from usable at this point.

My plan is to "remove" SDL and add in CGX RTG support instead and go straight for AHI myself, in hopes for getting some improvements by removing overhead. I'd like it to at least run on a Vampire accelerated Amiga in a foreseeable future.


Marlon Beijer

Posts 124
20 Jun 2017 21:11


Mr Niding wrote:

Noticed this; http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?p=1166382#post1166382
 
  This is my fixed version: EXTERNAL LINK 
  it requires premake4 to create the makefile.
 
  I'm not done with optimizations, so currently it only runs at a decent speed in UAE-JIT 040. Just fyi.
 
  Browsing files inside milkytracker doesn't work either, so you have to load files from commandline. So it's far from usable at this point.
 
  My plan is to "remove" SDL and add in CGX RTG support instead and go straight for AHI myself, in hopes for getting some improvements by removing overhead. I'd like it to at least run on a Vampire accelerated Amiga in a foreseeable future.

That's me. And I've spoken about this with the team in IRC as well. :)



Pedro Cotter

Posts 100
27 Jul 2018 22:43


More Pamela testings.. Wav files and screen modes.
  PAM does not depend on 15/31Khz screen mode - OK!!!

Some videos of the testing:
EXTERNAL LINK


Gregthe Canuck

Posts 270
28 Jul 2018 00:53


Very cool!

Of course as with all audio gear the better gear is definitely revealing the limitations of the source material.

Do any of the mod formats support 16-bit (or higher) samples? Does EaglePlayer play these?



Daniel Sevo

Posts 235
28 Jul 2018 00:58


David Wright wrote:

  Sound through hdmi only? Wouldn't that mean only tv or monitors with speakers?
    Unfamiliar with hdmi sound output other than home entertainment.
   
    My Amiga set up uses a soundbar,
 

 
  Should you (by some weird coincidence) own a DIGITAL-VIDEO capable monitor without Sound output, you could always get a DIGITAL-VIDEO to DIGITAL-VIDEO +Audio extractor like this one...
 
  EXTERNAL LINK   
Edit, hm lolz why is H.D.M.I. automagically translated to DIGITAL-VIDEO in the post?

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