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Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 5581
28 Oct 2021 10:43


Many people enjoy the new FIREBIRD card on their Amiga 500, already.
..
 
 
We discussed in the team to make a version of the Firebird called
SALAMANDER, tuned for the A600.
..
If you like this idea, please tell us..
 
 
Here some famous Amiga games from the Past ...
The pics might give you a hint where our Cards names come from.
 




Edvin AWalter

Posts 29
28 Oct 2021 11:43


I have V2 for A1200 and put an order for Icedrake.

I would also buy for my two A600 for sure.

Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

Many people enjoy the new FIREBIRD card on their Amiga 500, already.
  ..
 
 
  We discussed in the team to make a version of the Firebird called
  SALAMANDER, tuned for the A600.
  ..
  If you like this idea, please tell us..
 
 
  Here some famous Amiga games from the Past ...
  The pics might give you a hint where our Cards names come from.
 
 
 




Michael MiB

Posts 52
28 Oct 2021 11:56


Yes, yes, yes !

I need one to replace my Furia and add a « real » powerfull Amiga to my V4SA


Dawid 1983

Posts 26
28 Oct 2021 12:56


Hey yes i want :D and prabobly lots of others. Hope this can be done quick so i can sell my v2 today and order salamander before christmas :)

Also Pay Pal will be good in the shop so people can buy board on finance without any poblems. 

(But this is just my idea :)


Dawid 1983

Posts 26
28 Oct 2021 13:32


SALAMANDER will be extra board for firebird ?


Stefano Briccolani

Posts 585
28 Oct 2021 13:45


Yes it should be a small board that replicates the a500 68k socket and plugs with a reversed socket to the a600 soldered 68k.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 5581
28 Oct 2021 14:18


Dawid 1983 wrote:

SALAMANDER will be extra board for firebird ?

I can see two options.

1) A special new board, optimally for Amiga 600.
A "sister" board to Firebird.
All the same features, but optimized to fit in Amiga 600

2) A good adapter

We are discussion both options right now.
My wish would be to have the SALAMANDER Q1/2022


Michael MiB

Posts 52
28 Oct 2021 16:53


Gunnar von Boehn wrote:

  My wish would be to have the SALAMANDER Q1/2022

Will be nice !



Thomas Blatt

Posts 191
28 Oct 2021 18:07


Nice


Sean Sk

Posts 442
28 Oct 2021 22:44


If it was option 1, I would definitely get it.


Paolo Mirabella

Posts 1
31 Oct 2021 12:40


I would prefer option one, a new card for the 600.


Peter Heginbotham

Posts 207
31 Oct 2021 17:30


I would say an adapter board which can be securely mount to the A600 and a core for the Firebird which supports the Amiga 600


Adam A

Posts 125
01 Nov 2021 03:40


2) A good adapter

There will be no need to design a new board  (saves time)

More convenient for people who own both A500/600 (saves money)

No need to do two different batches when one could fit for both (availability)




Michael MiB

Posts 52
01 Nov 2021 05:15


Adam  A wrote:

2) A good adapter
 
 
  There will be no need to design a new board  (saves time)
 
  More convenient for people who own both A500/600 (saves money)
 
  No need to do two different batches when one could fit for both (availability)
 
 
 
 
 
 

Agree, a nice adapter and a "standard" card



Jd 64

Posts 27
01 Nov 2021 11:12


I think a dedicated card for the A600 would be the better option overall as an adapter is still just an adapter and there could be clearance issues fitting it into the A600 case.



Ian Parsons

Posts 228
01 Nov 2021 14:18


Adding additional potential electrical contact failure points with an adaptor board to the already troublesome A600 connection sounds like a bad idea to me. It may add additional mechanical stress to the CPU connection with the weight of the adaptor and less than optimal positioning/mounting/support/height. I don't know if plugging in a Fireboard with the A500 core into an adaptor and onto the A600 could electrically damage the card, the A600 or both but it needs to considered also. Waiting for a dedicated A600 V4 accelerator design would seem the better solution.


Sean Sk

Posts 442
02 Nov 2021 02:38


jd 64 wrote:

I think a dedicated card for the A600 would be the better option overall as an adapter is still just an adapter and there could be clearance issues fitting it into the A600 case.
 

Ian Parsons wrote:

Adding additional potential electrical contact failure points with an adaptor board to the already troublesome A600 connection sounds like a bad idea to me. It may add additional mechanical stress to the CPU connection with the weight of the adaptor and less than optimal positioning/mounting/support/height. I don't know if plugging in a Fireboard with the A500 core into an adaptor and onto the A600 could electrically damage the card, the A600 or both but it needs to considered also. Waiting for a dedicated A600 V4 accelerator design would seem the better solution.

Agreed! I think asking for the option to have the Firebird with an adapter is a ludicrous idea and only invites more issues, and those asking for it haven't really thought things through. The other issue is that fitting it all under the keyboard is going to be problematic. Look, I could be wrong and I'm prepared to take the flak for it, but I'd rather see a single unit for the A600.


Gunnar von Boehn
(Apollo Team Member)
Posts 5581
02 Nov 2021 08:01


sean sk wrote:

  Agreed! I think asking for the option to have the Firebird with an adapter is a ludicrous idea and only invites more issues,

Yes you are right.
The adapter will introduce extra problems.
On the one hand side the height will increase, which could give trouble closing the case. Also a complex construct with adapter in middle will not improve the connection.

I agree that a dedicated solution, might be the better.


Peter Heginbotham

Posts 207
02 Nov 2021 19:36


sean sk wrote:

  Agreed! I think asking for the option to have the Firebird with an adapter is a ludicrous idea and only invites more issues, and those asking for it haven't really thought things through. The other issue is that fitting it all under the keyboard is going to be problematic. Look, I could be wrong and I'm prepared to take the flak for it, but I'd rather see a single unit for the A600.

For those with a CheckMate 1500+ then height is not an issue. So a Firebird flashed with A600 core would make sense.


Cyberstormer Amiga

Posts 13
03 Nov 2021 12:37


Good Idea, I will also buy 1 or 2 for sure.

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