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| | Jacek Rafal Tatko
Posts 19 06 Oct 2016 01:56
| I'm definitely skipping the Vampire A500 & 600 ; Cannot really say the same for a Vampire A1200 Count me in on this one ; ideally a really fast one Price is ok if it can be E750 for a fast & 1k for top
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| | Thierry Atheist
Posts 644 06 Oct 2016 02:10
| Jacek Rafal Tatko wrote:
| Cannot really say the same for a Vampire A1200 Count me in on this one ; ideally a really fast one Price is ok if it can be E750 for a fast & 1k for top
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Hi Jacek,I can't remember seeing the estimated price of an A1200 Vampire 2 anywhere. However, it is estimated to be 500 Euro ($700 Canadian) for the standalone which will be 2 to 3 times as fast as the A600 and a500/2000 Amiga Vampire 2's!! Additionally, the standalone will have 1 Gigabyte of RAM!!!!
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| | Szyk Cech
Posts 191 06 Oct 2016 09:49
| Is that true: Half of Amiga games will simply hang with 1GB of RAM?!?
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| | Mark Smith
Posts 30 06 Oct 2016 12:21
| It's probably just speculation, will have to untill the powers that be say "Here it is this is the board specs!: Some people get a little over excited and post their dream configs :-)My dream would be for the boards to come with a nice new Amiga OS hosted C compiler that supports all the extra instructions (because my assembler skills are pathetic)
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| | Jacek Rafal Tatko
Posts 19 06 Oct 2016 12:36
| Yes , E500 was what I read here somewhere , I was saying 750-1k for any speedier FPGA's which I hope will also be available on orders . Since I plan to buy once , I'd like to beef up ;)
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| | Daniel Sevo
Posts 299 06 Oct 2016 15:26
| The V1200 should be in the 300 ballpark. (assuming it stays on the Cyclone III FPGA) It costs a bit more than the V600 with its proprietary connector, faster (and more?) DDR3 RAM and possibly an expansion slot. I figure, the hardware differences alone will amount to at least +50 over the V500/600 designs. But.. these are my personal estimates, guesses. I don't actually know... Anyhoo.. How about a small official update from someone inside the team about where we stand on the outsourced manufacturing and how it will affect release dates and supply? Pretty please?
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| | Tango One
Posts 102 06 Oct 2016 16:42
| Daniel Sevo wrote:
| The V1200 should be in the 300 ballpark. (assuming it stays on the Cyclone III FPGA) It costs a bit more than the V600 with its proprietary connector, faster (and more?) DDR3 RAM and possibly an expansion slot. I figure, the hardware differences alone will amount to at least +50 over the V500/600 designs. But.. these are my personal estimates, guesses. I don't actually know... Anyhoo.. How about a small official update from someone inside the team about where we stand on the outsourced manufacturing and how it will affect release dates and supply? Pretty please?
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Since this ebay sale started the v500 have sold between 600-800 USD. So hope we can have V1200 for 300 USD when availble but will dought it. But nice if we can have some updated info from the team.
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| | Thierry Atheist
Posts 644 06 Oct 2016 19:52
| Posted in wrong thread, I erased comment.
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| | Ronnie Shortski
Posts 10 08 Oct 2016 14:29
| yes 500 euro was mentioned in a thread, but since the apollo team has not officially mentioned a price somewhere, it stays a guess..i hope it stays below 500 euro. i hope its somewhere between 300-400 euro max..so it stays affordable :)
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| | Thierry Atheist
Posts 644 08 Oct 2016 14:36
| Ronnie Shortski wrote:
| yes 500 euro was mentioned in a thread, but since the apollo team has not officially mentioned a price somewhere, it stays a guess.. |
Hi Ronnie,Are you aware of what was supposed to be "500 Euro" in price? I mean, which item and what will be parts of it. I do not remember seeing a price, or even a rumour of a price for a Vampire 2 that goes into an Amiga 1200.
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| | Mo Retro
Posts 241 08 Oct 2016 14:46
| Thierry Atheist wrote:
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Ronnie Shortski wrote:
| yes 500 euro was mentioned in a thread, but since the apollo team has not officially mentioned a price somewhere, it stays a guess.. |
Hi Ronnie, Are you aware of what was supposed to be "500 Euro" in price? I mean, which item and what will be parts of it. I do not remember seeing a price, or even a rumour of a price for a Vampire 2 that goes into an Amiga 1200.
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The 500 price was stated in post for the standalone. By Gunnar I think.
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| | Thierry Atheist
Posts 644 08 Oct 2016 15:33
| Mo Retro wrote:
| The 500 price was stated in post for the standalone. By Gunnar I think.
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Hi Mo, That's correct. I think that Ronnie doesn't know that. It will not need anything from any old AMIGA computer that you own except for a copy of you ROM chip (or you need one from Amiga Forever). 1. It will use an Arria 10 FPGA that will work anywhere from 2 to 3 times as fast as current Apollo Core 68080 accelerator cards for the original AMIGAs. (Depends on how good the FPGA is. They haven't built one yet.) 2. It will have 1 gigabyte of RAM. 3. It will have a bigger instruction and data cache. 4. DIGITAL-VIDEO port 5. SD or microSD socket (at least 1) 6. USB (at least 1) More than likely an Ethernet port. Maybe a SATA port. It will be the BEST AMIGA THAT EXISTS when they make it in probably 2017.
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| | Mo Retro
Posts 241 08 Oct 2016 20:21
| Thierry Atheist wrote:
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Mo Retro wrote:
| The 500 price was stated in post for the standalone. By Gunnar I think. |
Hi Mo, That's correct. I think that Ronnie doesn't know that. It will not need anything from any old AMIGA computer that you own except for a copy of you ROM chip (or you need one from Amiga Forever). 1. It will use an Arria 10 FPGA that will work anywhere from 2 to 3 times as fast as current Apollo Core 68080 accelerator cards for the original AMIGAs. (Depends on how good the FPGA is. They haven't built one yet.) 2. It will have 1 gigabyte of RAM. 3. It will have a bigger instruction and data cache. 4. DIGITAL-VIDEO port 5. SD or microSD socket (at least 1) 6. USB (at least 1) More than likely an Ethernet port. Maybe a SATA port. It will be the BEST AMIGA THAT EXISTS when they make it in probably 2017.
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Hi Thierry, I've seen this standalone config in the forum. With speeds like that it would be interesting to have the Gen OS's support the Vampire natively. A port of AmigaOS 4.1 and/or the Rock steady MorphOS would be the cherry on the cake :D A lot things like USB, TCP/IP, etc.. would be supported natively.
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| | Thorsten Kφster
Posts 2 09 Oct 2016 11:16
| Amiga OS4.1 support would very well.
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| | Gunnar von Boehn (Apollo Team Member) Posts 6254 09 Oct 2016 12:45
| To prevent speculations. We did dicuss here several option that we have for a new standalone. What was re-posted here is one option of what we did discuss - it not sure that the board will look like this in fact.
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| | Mo Retro
Posts 241 09 Oct 2016 13:17
| Thorsten Köster wrote:
| Amiga OS4.1 support would very well.
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Is there native 68K support in Amiga OS 4.1? I thought they did it in emulation.
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| | Mo Retro
Posts 241 09 Oct 2016 13:22
| Gunnar von Boehn wrote:
| To prevent speculations. We did dicuss here several option that we have for a new standalone. What was re-posted here is one option of what we did discuss - it not sure that the board will look like this in fact.
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Hi Gunnar, Can these discussed options be put in a new post for easy reference? This would make it easier for future reference and additions.
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| | Gunnar von Boehn (Apollo Team Member) Posts 6254 09 Oct 2016 13:41
| Mo Retro wrote:
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Thorsten Köster wrote:
| Amiga OS4.1 support would very well. |
Is there native 68K support in Amiga OS 4.1? I thought they did it in emulation.
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There is _NO_ OS4 coming out for this.
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| | Peter Heginbotham
Posts 214 09 Oct 2016 14:37
| From a cost and design point of view would it not be easier to lift and shift the Vampire V2 600\500 to the V1200. Start a Kickstarter fund to produce 1000-2000 Connectors The for the V3 have a common design to add all the new features and chips
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| | Roger Shimada
Posts 30 09 Oct 2016 17:46
| Peter Heginbotham wrote:
| Start a Kickstarter fund to produce 1000-2000 (A1200) Connectors
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Majsta and the Apollo team do not seem to have any interest in crowdfunding, but perhaps this will change someday. Tooling costs can be huge. For example, recently new DB-19s were produced. From EXTERNAL LINK "The estimated cost was eye-watering a minimum order size of 10000 pieces and a total cost well into five figures (US dollars)."
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